2022 List management, trading, drafting

[Ludwig]

I like Zurhaar, but I think he's a difficult fit for our team right now. I would rate Hayward a better player who is playing a similar role. You can check out the stats here:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=17&playerStatus2=A&tid2=13&type=A&pid1=6347&pid2=6407&fid1=S&fid2=S

It's hard to see how we fit Zurhaar, Hayward and Heeney in the same forward line. One can play as a key forward, but that mean that we certainly would have to say goodbye to Buddy. I am not against playing just 2 tall forwards, but there has to be a realisation that we will have to play just 2 tall forwards if Zurhaar comes to the Swans. In other times, I would be more than happy to see Heeney in the midfield, and would still be happy to see him there, but the fact is that we have a strong midfield without Heeney and also have several reserves players who could come in as well.

[dejavoodoo44]

I like Zurhaar, but I think he's a difficult fit for our team right now. I would rate Hayward a better player who is playing a similar role. You can check out the stats here:

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=17&playerStatus2=A&tid2=13&type=A&pid1=6347&pid2=6407&fid1=S&fid2=S

It's hard to see how we fit Zurhaar, Hayward and Heeney in the same forward line. One can play as a key forward, but that mean that we certainly would have to say goodbye to Buddy. I am not against playing just 2 tall forwards, but there has to be a realisation that we will have to play just 2 tall forwards if Zurhaar comes to the Swans. In other times, I would be more than happy to see Heeney in the midfield, and would still be happy to see him there, but the fact is that we have a strong midfield without Heeney and also have several reserves players who could come in as well.

Yes, I see no real point in going for Zurhaar. Heeney is certainly better and Hayward probably is, so do we really need to getting in a bidding war, for a medium forward who may not be an automatic selection? Especially when we could probably use one of our first round picks, to draft a forward with more potential.

[Markwebbos]

Can’t believe that no one’s mentioned the 22 under 22 squad yet? We have 6 players, the most of any club:

Gulden, Blakey, JMac and TMac, the Chad and Rowbottom.



Swans, Freo lead the way: Full 22Under22 squad revealed

[i'm-uninformed2]

Can’t believe that no one’s mentioned the 22 under 22 squad yet? We have 6 players, the most of any club:

Gulden, Blakey, JMac and TMac, the Chad and Rowbottom.



Swans, Freo lead the way: Full 22Under22 squad revealed

Just terrific isn't it - and to think, we've still got the untapped potential of Logan McDonald, Campbell, Sheldrick etc sitting underneath.

[Mountain Man]

I think we underestimate what McLean could bring to the team when Buddy retires.

His upside is a strong mark and an accurate kick for goal. His downside is his mobility and a so so relief ruck performance.

If we retain our current forwards (with Armarty replacing Reid in due course as the principal Ruck relief) we will have 2 strong agile tall forwards in McDonald and Armarty/Reid); 2 very strong marks and high work rates from medium talls in Heaney and Haywood; 2 of Papley and Clarke/Ronke/Wicks/Campbell as pressure smalls.

Parker is capable of goals also as he plays more as a forward as his role changes

In that setup, a kick to a marking target in McLean is a safe "get out" if the other forwards cannot be identified by the inside 50 kicker.

[KTigers]

Can’t believe that no one’s mentioned the 22 under 22 squad yet? We have 6 players, the most of any club:

Gulden, Blakey, JMac and TMac, the Chad and Rowbottom.

Swans, Freo lead the way: Full 22Under22 squad revealed

What is particularly interesting is that while we have six in the squad, there are 8 teams that either have just one player in the
squad or none at all.

[707]

What is particularly interesting is that while we have six in the squad, there are 8 teams that either have just one player in the
squad or none at all.

Geelong I assume is one of the eight, who are the others?

[707]

I don't know he'd be an automatic start for them. They have three promising young tall to medium-tall defenders already, in Worrell, Murray and Butts. (Not to mention McAsey who can't get a game.)

Port might be more interested in him, were he to want to go home.

I keep an eye on the Crows, just death riding them because I don't like them. Media here fawns over them.

Worrell been languishing in their reserves until last week, given their lack of quality I don't know why.
Butts is a tall defender who has gone backwards this season, leading the Anti Coleman I believe.
Murray has poor skills below his knees.
McAsey pick 6 in 2018 can hardly get a kick in the SANFL.

I think Crows would take whoever they could get to come home, but agree Port may be a more likely destination? Anyway, think he'll be sought after.

Zurhaar is definitely not a need for us and won't be cheap in salary or picks to get him out of Norf.

[KTigers]

Geelong I assume is one of the eight, who are the others?

Bombers, GWS, Hawthorn, North, Richmond, St Kilda and West Coast.

[The Big Cat]

It's a problem when you have a settled 22 with few injuries. We lost Membrey because he was stuck behind Goodes.

What? That’s like saying a VW Beetle was stuck behind a Ferrari. The two should never, ever be mentioned in the same sentence!

We lost Membrey because he wasn’t good enough to play in a top team. Still isn’t. Check his stats against the top teams.

[Maltopia]

Brodie Grundy seems to be going to the Demons. How on earth can they afford his $1 million per year salary, plus Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Langdon, Salem, Fritsch, Viney, Pickett etc.?

[Markwebbos]

Brodie Grundy seems to be going to the Demons. How on earth can they afford his $1 million per year salary, plus Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Langdon, Salem, Fritsch, Viney, Pickett etc.?

Collingwood will be paying half of it

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Brodie Grundy seems to be going to the Demons. How on earth can they afford his $1 million per year salary, plus Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Langdon, Salem, Fritsch, Viney, Pickett etc.?

I think Collingwood are paying about 33% of his contract. Melbourne are taking a massive risk and an unnecessary one.


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[KTigers]

I think Collingwood are paying about 33% of his contract. Melbourne are taking a massive risk and an unnecessary one.


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Yet another example of why footy clubs are not real businesses. Imagine having a business and paying part of the wage bill of an
opposition company.

[KSAS]

Yet another example of why footy clubs are not real businesses. Imagine having a business and paying part of the wage bill of an
opposition company.

It's also another example why we hear people claiming "contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on". We did something similar but more discreetly when we traded a contracted Hannerbery to St. Kilda. At least Hanners mutually agreed with the trade & there was no paying part of his remaining contract involved (Pick 28 to the Saints. Picks 39 & future 2019 2nd rounder in return). It was effectively a salary dump of 4 x $800k pa on a player with chronic injury issues & form. Has played only 16 games at the Saints as a result, which we would've been burden with. That trade looks like a great win for us now in hindsight!

On the other hand we were forced by the AFL to fully honour Buddy's 9 year contract. I wonder without this constraint, how tempted the club might've been to make some sort of decision when he missed most of the 2019-2020 seasons through injury when he was on $1.2m pa? There were concerns his career might be over. Thankfully that wasn't the case.

In F1, it's interesting what's playing out between McLaren and Ricciardo after they both had just publically committed seeing contract out next year. McLaren being seen doing the dirty in fans eyes despite Ricciardo's under par performances.