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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Andy Maher says Tom Mitchell would fit in seamlessly around Sydney’s young midfield and fill the void about to be left by the retiring Josh Kennedy.

    Would trade back to former club suit Hawks midfielder?

    Seriously?

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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      Don't agree Mitchell is what we need. We've got Parks and Mills already with RB, Gus & Roberts coming through. And, even if we did need Mitchell, still wouldn't see it happening. Mitchell didn't leave on bad terms but he didn't exactly leave with our blessing either.
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      • dejavoodoo44
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2015
        • 8626

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        Andy Maher says Tom Mitchell would fit in seamlessly around Sydney’s young midfield and fill the void about to be left by the retiring Josh Kennedy.

        Would trade back to former club suit Hawks midfielder?

        Seriously?
        I think Andy Maher is at his best, when he's the butt of jokes by Mick Molloy and Sam Pang.

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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          If Mitchell was a few years younger he would be worth considering but he'll 30 next year.
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • Ruck'n'Roll
            Ego alta, ergo ictus
            • Nov 2003
            • 3990

            I think we do need a clearance creature, dislike being on the wrong end of clearance counts, and Mitchell is certainly that. He's at his best when able to link with players providing outside run, which our Cygnets could do.
            I'm not sure his age is reason to veto, but I heard he was seeking a Melbourne club.
            Also, I'm not sure I could stomach another Mitchell talking about how he missed the club that nurtured him and how he shouldn't have left etc. etc. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

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            • Mr Magoo
              Senior Player
              • May 2008
              • 1255

              Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
              I think we do need a clearance creature, dislike being on the wrong end of clearance counts, and Mitchell is certainly that. He's at his best when able to link with players providing outside run, which our Cygnets could do.
              I'm not sure his age is reason to veto, but I heard he was seeking a Melbourne club.
              Also, I'm not sure I could stomach another Mitchell talking about how he missed the club that nurtured him and how he shouldn't have left etc. etc. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
              Mitchells a mercenary which Im not keen on but then again clubs are loyal for as long as it suits them so maybe hes just playing the same game.

              I actually agree that he would be ideal for our side, unbelievable ability to find the ball which would complement the others in our midfield as parker and joey move out. Would only give him a two year contract though. Hes not pacy and often the slow guys like him just drop off a cliff once past thirty.

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              • 111431
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2010
                • 698

                Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                Mitchells a mercenary which Im not keen on but then again clubs are loyal for as long as it suits them so maybe hes just playing the same game.

                I actually agree that he would be ideal for our side, unbelievable ability to find the ball which would complement the others in our midfield as parker and joey move out. Would only give him a two year contract though. Hes not pacy and often the slow guys like him just drop off a cliff once past thirty.
                as good a player as he has been, I think we would be going back to 2020 midfield where we had Joey, Parks and Georgie all of which are never going to qualify for the sprints at the Olympics. Many on here deemed our midfield too slow then. We still have Parks and Millsy. One of them can be the extractor and feed the fleet of foot

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16770

                  The obvious flaw in Maher's suggestion of Mitchell as a replacement for Kennedy is that we had already moved Kennedy out of the middle and were struggling to find a spot for him in the side.

                  We could do with a pure "see ball, get ball" player in the middle of the ground, but that's what Sheldrick is. Is he as good now as Mitchell? No. Will he ever reach the peak level Mitchell reached? Probably not. But we've invested in him and he looks ready for senior footy, which he'll hopefully see some of next year. And he's a darned sight cheaper than Mitchell would be, even if the Hawks subsidise the Mitchell salary for a year.

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                  • Mr Magoo
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2008
                    • 1255

                    Originally posted by 111431
                    as good a player as he has been, I think we would be going back to 2020 midfield where we had Joey, Parks and Georgie all of which are never going to qualify for the sprints at the Olympics. Many on here deemed our midfield too slow then. We still have Parks and Millsy. One of them can be the extractor and feed the fleet of foot
                    Youve sold it to me. Agree that hes not worth the effort. I have felt that we have struggled in those midfield stoppages during the year.

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      I think Andy Maher is at his best, when he's the butt of jokes by Mick Molloy and Sam Pang.
                      LOL! So many commentators on the AFL really have very little idea, should just shut up. That includes Luke Darcy, about the dumbest of the lot!

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11339

                        Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                        Mitchells a mercenary which Im not keen on but then again clubs are loyal for as long as it suits them so maybe hes just playing the same game.

                        I actually agree that he would be ideal for our side, unbelievable ability to find the ball which would complement the others in our midfield as parker and joey move out. Would only give him a two year contract though. Hes not pacy and often the slow guys like him just drop off a cliff once past thirty.
                        Surely Mitchell doesn't think he is going to get better coin elsewhere. I guess his thinking is if he doesn't move now, that he won't get picked up at the end of next year when his contract ends.
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                        • Kafka's Ghost
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2017
                          • 903

                          2022 List management, trading, drafting

                          Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                          Mitchells a mercenary which Im not keen on but then again clubs are loyal for as long as it suits them so maybe hes just playing the same game.

                          I actually agree that he would be ideal for our side, unbelievable ability to find the ball which would complement the others in our midfield as parker and joey move out. Would only give him a two year contract though. Hes not pacy and often the slow guys like him just drop off a cliff once past thirty.
                          He’s about the same age as Parker, only 6 months or so younger, and not a great ball user, despite his undoubted ability to win it.


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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8166

                            Originally posted by Kafka's Ghost
                            He’s about the same age as Parker, only 6 months or so younger, and not a great ball user, despite his undoubted ability to win it.


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                            I was surprised how similar in age they were - for some reason my brain had Mitchell down as at least 3 years younger then Parker.

                            He wins a heap of the ball Mitchell, but doesn't offer the same threat around the ground that Parker will be able to as he gets older (like Bolton did when moved to the forward line late in his career). This is probably his last chance at a really solid multi-year contract.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • gloveski
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1018

                              No from me for Mitchell returning . We have Gus learning the ropes and he has better leg speed


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                              • Aprilbr
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 1803

                                Originally posted by Kafka's Ghost
                                He’s about the same age as Parker, only 6 months or so younger, and not a great ball user, despite his undoubted ability to win it.


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                                Mitchell is a top-tier distributor of the ball with an inate ability to read the play and win the ball. His handball skills to other players in tight situations is very good but his kicking skills are average. If we could get him for a modest price then it would be worth due consideration, but I suspect he will be keen to stay in Melbourne. I also see the argument that he may hold back progress of players like Gus and Roberts. For that reason, the Swans should only seriously consider him if the deal was made very much on the Swans' terms. We are certainly not desperate for him!

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