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  • Roadrunner
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2018
    • 1481

    #91
    Of course we want to extend Logan’s contract, as he has heaps of potential. But the reality is that he is yet to establish himself in the team, so it seems silly for his agent to talk about the go home factor. Forget that he was an early pick for the moment- let’s see how he goes this year. If he doesn’t deliver to expectations, he can go home as far as I’m concerned. Same goes for any other player- we have to be tough but fair! Potential doesn’t win flags.

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    • i'm-uninformed2
      Reefer Madness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4653

      #92
      Originally posted by Roadrunner
      Of course we want to extend Logan’s contract, as he has heaps of potential. But the reality is that he is yet to establish himself in the team, so it seems silly for his agent to talk about the go home factor. Forget that he was an early pick for the moment- let’s see how he goes this year. If he doesn’t deliver to expectations, he can go home as far as I’m concerned. Same goes for any other player- we have to be tough but fair! Potential doesn’t win flags.
      I guess it depends on what the expectations are for a young, developing KPF.

      If people expect him to play every game and kick 40 goals, they'll be disappointed. That's just not usually the experience of second year KPFs. If he improves from last year and plays about 15 or so games and kicks around 25 goals, that's fair enough for me. It says he's on track.
      'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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      • Aprilbr
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2016
        • 1803

        #93
        Originally posted by goswannies
        Loved reading McDonald’s manager repeatedly talking about his option to go back to WA if he wants to and getting as much as his ceiling potential might be worth
        That’s obviously his job but discretion might be a better approach until Logan is actually ready to jump ship. Can’t see how it benefits Logan to have his negotiations play out publicly. That’s never been the Swans way
        From reading the quotes of his Manager, it appears that his first preference is to stay at the Swans but the Manager wants to extract the best possible deal for him. Nothing unusual there. Fingers crossed!

        "It’s quite unusual to get a four-year offer as your first extension, but we believe we know where he’s going to get to and it’s my job to make sure that he’s locked in for the right price for that."

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          #94
          It's always a bit hit and miss with key forwards taken with high draft picks. For a variety of reasons, many have not lived up to potential in recent times. One just had to look at Tom Boyd, Jono Patton, Josh Schache and even our own PMac to see how hit and miss it is.

          LMac has potential, no doubt but let's not sell the farm to keep him.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16778

            #95
            I don't think agents do their clients any favour by going after bloated contracts before a player has had a chance to establish themselves. The agent's job is to maximise a client's earning potential over the length of their career. Forcing clubs to pay overs based on potential, not reality, surely puts a huge amount of pressure on that young player, and also potentially squeezes the club's salary cap to the point where the list as a whole suffers.

            We see this at Gold Coast, where any high pick (and most of their draftees tend to be high picks due to the constant shuffling of players through that club) gets an extension on big money almost as soon as they walk through the door. And this has resulted in the Gold Coast being under constant salary cap pressure despite results that suggest they should be in anything but that situation.

            I don't pretend to know exactly what caused Tom Boyd to retire so early, but it's easy to imagine that the enormous contract on which he was lured to the Western Bulldogs at least contributed to the pressure to perform at a level he wasn't yet ready to.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              #96
              Said this last week , its his agent . Logan wants to stay and will stay , manager will be a pain in the rear over it , its his job

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                #97
                Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                It's always a bit hit and miss with key forwards taken with high draft picks. For a variety of reasons, many have not lived up to potential in recent times. One just had to look at Tom Boyd, Jono Patton, Josh Schache and even our own PMac to see how hit and miss it is.

                LMac has potential, no doubt but let's not sell the farm to keep him.
                Saw another last night, pick 9, Weideman, about to start his 7th season, done almost nothing and didn't look like it last night.

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                • Aprilbr
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1803

                  #98
                  Originally posted by TheBloods
                  Said this last week , its his agent . Logan wants to stay and will stay , manager will be a pain in the rear over it , its his job
                  On Friday night, someone from Perth posted on Big Footy that a radio commentator from over there had recently said that McDonald has agreed to re-sign with us but no specifics on the term were given. If true, this is excellent news although we obviously we have to be careful with that source. The fact that a radio commentator over there apparently said it suggests some inside information.
                  Last edited by Aprilbr; 14 March 2022, 04:36 PM.

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                  • MattW
                    Veterans List
                    • May 2011
                    • 4223

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Aprilbr
                    On Friday night, someone from Perth posted on Big Footy that a radio commentator from over there had recently said that McDonald has agreed to re-sign with us but no specifics on the term were given. If true, this is excellent news although we obviously we have to be careful with that source. The fact that a radio commentator over there apparently said it suggests some inside information.
                    I'd be super surprised if he doesn't. He looks committed to me.

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      Originally posted by Aprilbr
                      On Friday night, someone from Perth posted on Big Footy that a radio commentator from over there had recently said that McDonald has agreed to re-sign with us but no specifics on the term were given. If true, this is excellent news although we obviously we have to be careful with that source. The fact that a radio commentator over there apparently said it suggests some inside information.
                      Wouldn 't know anything about that , probably the Nose from Athens who cant get a swans players name right !

                      I only know what i know , up to you if you want to trust me or not , understand if you wouldn 't, im not too popular round these ways

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                      • Aprilbr
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1803

                        Originally posted by TheBloods
                        Wouldn 't know anything about that , probably the Nose from Athens who cant get a swans players name right !

                        I only know what i know , up to you if you want to trust me or not , understand if you wouldn 't, im not too popular round these ways
                        That's all a bit cryptic for me to understand, TB!

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                        • TheBloods
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 2047

                          Originally posted by Aprilbr
                          That's all a bit cryptic for me to understand, TB!
                          He is happy in sydney , wants to stay , club isnt worried and teammates aren 't either

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                          • Syd Swan
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 140

                            Originally posted by TheBloods
                            He is happy in sydney , wants to stay , club isnt worried and teammates aren 't either
                            Sounds like Jordan Dawson.

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Originally posted by Syd Swan
                              Sounds like Jordan Dawson.
                              Stop it, I feel sick in my stomach!

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                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15971

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