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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    Originally posted by Mark26
    What does that mean for retaining Fox? I have no idea about the rookie list v our main list? Not being a smart ****, just genuinely ignorant of differing contract rules. Fox has been a gem and I'd hate to lose him.
    My understanding is that he is an unrestricted free agent as we delisted him in 2020. So if another club offers him a senior spot and $250K for example, he is free to go, and we can't force him to stay with a matched offer.

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      Originally posted by longmile
      Poor fox. Has low key been @@@@@@ by the swans. Has proved multiple times he’s best 22 only to be dropped and/or rookie listed. Glad he’s having a break our year and hope he’s appropriately compensated
      Whilst this may be true, 17 other clubs could have grabbed him and havent.

      Seems the Swans are the only team giving poor Fox and AFL career

      id like to know what the TV deal did for wages going forward, id say decent rises in Cap the next few years, or at the very least some certainty

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        I think the Swans will offer Fox a couple of years on the main list at a decent salary. I doubt if other clubs are going into a bidding war for a 30 yo that they they probably rate as a fringe player.


        On another matter: If Buddy Franklin signs with another club for 2 years at around 600k, he would fall into the 2nd round compensation pick range before adjustment for age, a formula so secret that no one living or dead is permitted to know how it works. Would it be reasonable to expect that we would get a 3rd round pick, at minimum, for the great one?
        Last edited by Ludwig; 6 September 2022, 10:53 PM.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8162

          Originally posted by longmile
          Poor fox. Has low key been @@@@@@ by the swans. Has proved multiple times he’s best 22 only to be dropped and/or rookie listed. Glad he’s having a break our year and hope he’s appropriately compensated
          To be fair to the club, Fox has been a relative fringe player on the edge of the 22 for a reasonable part of his time at the club, with some good runs the Seniors team in amongst some lengthy periods where he couldn't break into the team.

          I enjoyed his honesty about the ups and downs in the article posted the other day https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...03-p5bf42.html

          The delisting however did come after he played most of the games in season 2020 and did well, which was a very tough call - but if I remember rightly it was all a bit messed up too, as this article from the time suggests. (https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/we-we...ials-c-1654954

          I'm sure he will get a reasonable deal - and I don't doubt a few other clubs might enquire too.

          Just love how he goes about it, and it is unsung heroes like him, as much as the A grade players, that have put us in genuine contention to compete for the Cup this year.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • KTigers
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2012
            • 2499

            I would be very surprised if Bud would go to another club for a year for what is basically $100K after tax. I think he'll retire after this season.

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            • Roadrunner
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2018
              • 1475

              Originally posted by KTigers
              I would be very surprised if Bud would go to another club for a year for what is basically $100K after tax. I think he'll retire after this season.
              He might if we win the flag. Otherwise he could go another year, but we need the Amartey/ Logan combo to kick in sooner rather than later as it will take time. So not sure which is the best scenario- let’s just win the flag and then who cares?????

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              • i'm-uninformed2
                Reefer Madness
                • Oct 2003
                • 4653

                As for the fabulous Mr Fox, locked in for another two years. Utterly well deserved.

                Sydney Swans defender Robbie Fox signs new deal for two years
                'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                • Maltopia
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1556

                  Originally posted by KTigers
                  I would be very surprised if Bud would go to another club for a year for what is basically $100K after tax. I think he'll retire after this season.
                  But at this life stage, the football is a bonus if he and Jescinta agree to be closer to her family next year.

                  That is the $100,000 extra might not be the sole or even a major reason if he moves to Brisbane.

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                  • longmile
                    Crumber
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3365

                    Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                    As for the fabulous Mr Fox, locked in for another two years. Utterly well deserved.

                    Sydney Swans defender Robbie Fox signs new deal for two years
                    Woohoo!

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                    • Kafka's Ghost
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 901

                      Originally posted by longmile
                      Woohoo!
                      Great news! One of my favourite players.


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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16764

                        Originally posted by Maltopia
                        But at this life stage, the football is a bonus if he and Jescinta agree to be closer to her family next year.

                        That is the $100,000 extra won’t be the sole or even the main reason if he moves to Brisbane.
                        I doubt he'll even get more money from a Queensland club. Gold Coast don't need the distraction of a short term cameo by an ageing superstar. Brisbane probably don't need it either, but it's less likely to be damaging for them. But would he actually help them, either onfield or off? Hard to say yes.

                        The Swans know how to play with him, and have had the advantage of gradually adjusting how he is used as his powers wane, while still benefitting from his moments of wonder. Any other club would have to learn how to best use him.

                        And since we Swans fans already love him, you'd think his marketing value is higher for the Swans that any other club. Their supporters would have to learn to love him (rather than just admire him from afar), while knowing it's just a short term thing for him.

                        That's why I struggle to see him suiting up for another club next season. And if he does, I can't see that it will be for more money than he'll earn at the Swans. He may have a strong desire to live in Queensland as early as next year, and still want to play footy. In that case, a modest contract with Brisbane might be on the cards. Or may move up there and hang up the boots.

                        Or he may be happy to hang around in Sydney for another year.

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                        • RogueSwan
                          McVeigh for Brownlow
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 4602

                          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                          As for the fabulous Mr Fox, locked in for another two years. Utterly well deserved.

                          Sydney Swans defender Robbie Fox signs new deal for two years
                          I guess this means he is still a rookie as there was no mention of a promotion. Or does all of that occur during the off season?
                          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8583

                            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                            As for the fabulous Mr Fox, locked in for another two years. Utterly well deserved.

                            Sydney Swans defender Robbie Fox signs new deal for two years
                            That's excellent. I hope that means he gets taken off the poorly named rookie list.

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                            • KTigers
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 2499

                              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                              That's excellent. I hope that means he gets taken off the poorly named rookie list.
                              Maybe they need a new list, the Ageing Rookie List.

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                              • Mark26
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 1535

                                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                                As for the fabulous Mr Fox, locked in for another two years. Utterly well deserved.

                                Sydney Swans defender Robbie Fox signs new deal for two years
                                Great news!

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