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  • Aprilbr
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2016
    • 1803

    Originally posted by barry
    Could rattens departure be because of a blow up between coach and list manager after the trade period?

    Ratten would have been livid.
    I note that Ratten was previously an Assistant Coach at Hawthorn prior to joining the Saints. I wonder if the sacking has anything to do with his time at the Hawks with reference to the current investigation involving that Club? Purely speculation of course.

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    • i'm-uninformed2
      Reefer Madness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4653

      Just bonkers.

      The Saints are now saying they did the review to see whether they had a genuine plan to get to a flag, or were stuck in no-man's land, and it came back as the latter.

      Well, that's not just the coach, but the head of football. But they just promoted the head of football to CEO, who's now sacked the coach.

      St Kilda coach Brett Ratten sacked: President Andrew Bassat fronts press conference, review found ‘troubling’ answer | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site
      'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16772

        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
        Just bonkers.

        The Saints are now saying they did the review to see whether they had a genuine plan to get to a flag, or were stuck in no-man's land, and it came back as the latter.

        Well, that's not just the coach, but the head of football. But they just promoted the head of football to CEO, who's now sacked the coach.

        St Kilda coach Brett Ratten sacked: President Andrew Bassat fronts press conference, review found ‘troubling’ answer | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site
        Completely bizarre.

        It was Lethlean who was instrumental in getting Hanners to the Saints - he and Hanners' dad were long-time mates. It was possibly a reasonable trade to make (and certainly did us a favour, salary cap wise) but I never came close to understanding why they felt the need to tack several more years onto the end of his decent-money contract.

        And the bloke they are getting in to be the new head of football is the guy in charge at Collingwood (as head of football) when they signed Grundy to the mammoth deal that they've now decided they don't want, and who oversaw the fire-sale of Treloar and others for salary cap reasons (maybe partly arising from that Grundy contract).

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16772

          Originally posted by Aprilbr
          I note that Ratten was previously an Assistant Coach at Hawthorn prior to joining the Saints. I wonder if the sacking has anything to do with his time at the Hawks with reference to the current investigation involving that Club? Purely speculation of course.
          Speculation that, I suspect, is far off target and unwarranted. The review of the Hawthorn operations has barely even begun. And nothing that has been made public indicates Ratten was involved in the alleged poor treatment of certain players.

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8632

            Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
            Just bonkers.

            The Saints are now saying they did the review to see whether they had a genuine plan to get to a flag, or were stuck in no-man's land, and it came back as the latter.

            Well, that's not just the coach, but the head of football. But they just promoted the head of football to CEO, who's now sacked the coach.

            St Kilda coach Brett Ratten sacked: President Andrew Bassat fronts press conference, review found ‘troubling’ answer | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site
            While I obviously have no evidence either way in this case, there's probably been many cases in the past, where the person who got promoted, spent a fair amount of time undermining the person who got sacked.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Brett Ratten gets an A++ from me and is the winner of Trade Week. He gets his contract extended through 2024, then, instead of actually having to work, gets 2 years paid vacation without the stress of having to coach a dysfunctional team. At the end of 2024 he gets an assistant coach job and goes on to live happily ever after.

              Geelong win this year's Trade Week Dracula Award for sucking the life blood out of expansion clubs. Richmond come in second; they had a gluttonous drink, but at least they left a big tip.

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              • BRS328
                Warming the Bench
                • Feb 2018
                • 356

                Originally posted by Bloods05
                Cyril tampered with the draft; Dylan is progressing nicely.
                Agree

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                • Aprilbr
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1803

                  Originally posted by liz
                  Speculation that, I suspect, is far off target and unwarranted. The review of the Hawthorn operations has barely even begun. And nothing that has been made public indicates Ratten was involved in the alleged poor treatment of certain players.
                  Liz, other people at Hawthorn at the time who may or may not have done anything wrong have been stood down including two coaches of other clubs, a former assistant coach, and an AFL Commissioner.

                  Hopefully, for Ratten he is not involved, but its a fact that he was an assistant at Hawthorn so its not out of the question. Given the sudden and unusual timing of the sacking, people will ask these types of questions. He seems a very decent guy so hopefully you are correct.

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    Ratten looks like a 60 year old with a drinking problem. I dont think coaching agrees with him.

                    Take a look at Richmond's starting 22. Its half made up of ex GWS and GC players. Not big on expansion the old tigers.

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                    • i'm-uninformed2
                      Reefer Madness
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 4653

                      You know the Saints will go for Ross Lyon or Beveridge, because their lunatic losers.

                      I actually have no beef with them, as they are highly irrelevant as a footy club, and I hope they go in another direction.

                      But it's the Saints, so they will do the short-term, dumb thing.
                      'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                      • Mark26
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1535

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Ratten looks like a 60 year old with a drinking problem. I dont think coaching agrees with him.

                        Take a look at Richmond's starting 22. Its half made up of ex GWS and GC players. Not big on expansion the old tigers.
                        On the contrary Barry. I think they love the expansion clubs!

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8557

                          Originally posted by Mark26
                          On the contrary Barry. I think they love the expansion clubs!
                          Exactly...it is equalisation they don't like and (along with Geelong) are doing everything the league will let them to burn it all down.

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2356

                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            While I obviously have no evidence either way in this case, there's probably been many cases in the past, where the person who got promoted, spent a fair amount of time undermining the person who got sacked.
                            The Saints have form on this. Grant Thomas said Blight had to go then took the job himself.
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                              While I obviously have no evidence either way in this case, there's probably been many cases in the past, where the person who got promoted, spent a fair amount of time undermining the person who got sacked.
                              That's what the 'one day wonder' recent Essendon CEO did, interviewed a heap of aspiring CEO's then took the job himself.

                              I keep saying it, we follow a wonderful club!

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                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              Exactly...it is equalisation they don't like and (along with Geelong) are doing everything the league will let them to burn it all down.
                              Jon Ralph sticking it to the VFL on this in his Sliding Doors column today

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                              • wolftone57
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5857

                                Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                                Did you mean disqualify or qualify?
                                Disqualify. You obviously did not read the @@@@e about him from the Banking Royal Commission. Robbing, yes stealing, money from bank customers in the form of fees that didn't exist or were illegal. He could very easily have landed in gaol. Probably should have.? He created one of the biggest financial scams in the history of banking. All at the expense of NAB customers.

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