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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4045

    Fair question but please wait for an answer until Collingwood are not involved.

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    • Meg
      Go Swannies!
      Site Admin
      • Aug 2011
      • 4828

      Originally posted by Bloods05
      Can ANYONE give me a simple explanation of why the 85,000 tickets left over after the AFL allocates 15,000 to corporate groups and sponsors can't ALL be allocated to competing club members? Why only 34,000?
      Probably about 40,000 tickets are allocated to MCC and AFL members whose top-tier membership (and hefty fees) entitle them to a ticket.

      Note that some / many of these will be Collingwood supporters anyway (at least in the AFL membership, perhaps not the MCC members ...).

      The provisional allocation is set out in this document:

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      • Kafka's Ghost
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2017
        • 901

        Originally posted by KTigers
        The version I saw had Daicos' arm outstretched around Toby's neck and Toby's head completely disconnected from his
        body and the words "PLAY ON". It's pretty funny.
        Re the buckling of the knees thing, I think the real giveaway is when particular players (a lot of them had the surname
        Selwood) get way more free kicks from high tackles from the average player. Tho' I think the umps are a wake up now
        to the likes of Errol, Papley and Toby and whats his name from the Western Bulldogs.... Weightman. And so the danger
        for them now is the "boy that cried wolf" scenario and they end up not being paid legitimate high tackles like the one
        on Toby. They sorta can't have it both ways.
        The other things is, it sort of follows that the more umps there are out there the more inconsistency there will be with
        their decisions. It's like no one at AFL House has thought of that.
        Agree that the four umpires have contributed to the inconsistency, and players don’t help themselves. Ginnivan actually boasting publicly about his free kick milking a very salient example, although the acknowledgment of Selwood’s doing the same never resulted in either opprobrium or a change in umpiring.
        Nevertheless I believe it’s the massive inconsistency that frustrates fans and drives everyone bonkers.


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        • Ruck'n'Roll
          Ego alta, ergo ictus
          • Nov 2003
          • 3990

          If the AFL used the existing "bringing the game into disrepute" provisions to suspend a stager or two, you'd see this behaviour curtailed quite quickly. However it would require the AFL to grow a spine, which seems unlikely.

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          • KTigers
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2012
            • 2499

            Originally posted by Meg
            Probably about 40,000 tickets are allocated to MCC and AFL members whose top-tier membership (and hefty fees) entitle them to a ticket.

            Note that some / many of these will be Collingwood supporters anyway (at least in the AFL membership, perhaps not the MCC members ...).

            The provisional allocation is set out in this document:

            https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/doc...llocations.pdf
            I wouldn't really describe them as "hefty". The annuals for MCC membership are about $800 and less depending
            on your age. I think SCG membership annuals are about the same.
            I think it's just the deal that if the AFL wants to play the GF at the MCG then MCC members get a lot of the tickets.
            This allocation of 17,000 tickets each to the members of the two competing clubs has been the same for years.
            It's the biggest footy game of the year and only a third of the people in the stadium actually care who wins.

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            • KTigers
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2012
              • 2499

              Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
              If the AFL used the existing "bringing the game into disrepute" provisions to suspend a stager or two, you'd see this behaviour curtailed quite quickly. However it would require the AFL to grow a spine, which seems unlikely.
              They'd probably get off after their QCs argued that staging is actually "a football act". I mean why not, everything
              else is.

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8600

                Originally posted by KTigers
                They'd probably get off after their QCs argued that staging is actually "a football act". I mean why not, everything
                else is.
                Well, they are acting during a football game.

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                  Well, they are acting during a football game.
                  Indeed yes, technically correct from a certain perspective, while being completely disingenuous and misleading. Completely in keeping with lawyerly behavoiur.

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    Time to have a moving grand final, highest ranked participant host it. It would mean that Collingwood would still host it, but this idea of AFL members and MCC member taking so many tickets will be diminished.

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                    • Mel_C
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 4470

                      Originally posted by Bloods05
                      Can ANYONE give me a simple explanation of why the 85,000 tickets left over after the AFL allocates 15,000 to corporate groups and sponsors can't ALL be allocated to competing club members? Why only 34,000?
                      Just saw a report about this on ABC news.
                      34,000 are allocated to the 2 competing teams. The rest goes to MCC Members, AFL Members, Corporates and AFL clubs.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4045

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Time to have a moving grand final, highest ranked participant host it. It would mean that Collingwood would still host it, but this idea of AFL members and MCC member taking so many tickets will be diminished.
                        Agree. Hard cold fact is that it is locked in till 2057. Farcical but don't get me started.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          Meanwhile down at Collingwood things aren't going well. Many top priority members have been given standing room tickets behind
                          pillars whilst some of their lesser mortal members have been given primo seats. Yikes. First world problems galore.

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4045

                            Originally posted by KTigers
                            Meanwhile down at Collingwood things aren't going well. Many top priority members have been given standing room tickets behind
                            pillars whilst some of their lesser mortal members have been given primo seats. Yikes. First world problems galore.
                            Hope the unrest filters down to the players

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8555

                              Originally posted by KTigers
                              I wouldn't really describe them as "hefty". The annuals for MCC membership are about $800 and less depending
                              on your age. I think SCG membership annuals are about the same.
                              I think it's just the deal that if the AFL wants to play the GF at the MCG then MCC members get a lot of the tickets.
                              This allocation of 17,000 tickets each to the members of the two competing clubs has been the same for years.
                              It's the biggest footy game of the year and only a third of the people in the stadium actually care who wins.
                              Last time I looked the MCC stood for Melbourne CRICKET Club.....why do they even have any rights to a ticket to the Australian FOOTBALL League GF? I understand the game is held at the Melbourne CRICKET Ground but I think it's a reasonable question. They have a membership to a cricket club FFS, not a footy club.

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                              • chalbilto
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1139

                                The same applies to the SCG members. I assume that the members or perhaps trusts of MCG and SCG own the actual sports ground and stadia and if this is the case, then wouldn't a better compromise be that the AFL rents the ground for finals and run the event as it sees fit and pays a rental fee to the trusts.

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