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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    I think Carlton have been fortunate to have come across two teams who couldn't kick a goal to save themselves. Next week will be a greater challenge, that if they give Lions the same chances will come back to bite them ion the bum. I think next week will be the reckoning for Blues. I am tipping Lions by 10, if they kick straight.

    Giants are in top form. First they dismantled Saints. Then Port. Next week they play Pies. People say giants and Pies play a similar game. They play the Richmond frenetic, get the ball on at all costs game. But there is a difference. With the Giants if they turn it over they back up and their mids get back or the defence destroys you. But Pies on the other hand, they give you a chance on every turnover and if you use the ball well you cut their defence out of the equation. Their mids do not fold back quick enough and sometimes not at all if they lose the ball. They can be exposed pretty badly. Dees exposed them after quarter time again and again but could not buy a goal. I think Giants get it done by about 30 points.

    A Lions v Giants GF for me. These are the two really in form teams. The AFL will try to get Pies over the line but I think the Giants have far too much structure in place for the Pies. The Pies have a problem in the ruck and if you don't give Moore & Murphy what they want, the long bomb to intercept, they are loose as a goose. Their best player back there is Maynard anyway but Greene plays him very well. He'll play rope a dope on Maynard all day and he'll fall for it. Bobby Hill won't get the room he did against Dees. I think when Ash goes to him he is going to realise he is being taken by a bloke just as quick and elusive. He will have to play both ways all of a sudden, not his strong point.

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    • KTigers
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2012
      • 2499

      Originally posted by Mountain Man
      Do you see how the Giants are trying to rebrand as 'Sydney'?

      There was a home made crowd sign that read "Sydney Born"
      Which is true. Not that it matters, but we can't actually say that.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        Worrying for the Giants is they kind of hit a wall in the last quarter. Reminded me of the last quarter of our 2022 prelim. In hindsight it was the end of our run. We ran out of puff, and got trounced in the grand final. Maybe the Giants are running out of puff too.

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        • BRS328
          Warming the Bench
          • Feb 2018
          • 356

          The Giants fade out in the last quarter coincided with the shoulder injury to Briggs which had a big impact on clearances. Anyone who thinks ruckmen are overrated should look at a replay of this game. This is why Grundy is crucial to the Swans in 2024. With the 6, 6, 6 rule centre clearances were the biggest issue Port had, and when Briggs went off there was a noticeable change in momentum. When he returned to the field he was clearly affected by the injury and was no longer as dominant

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4218

            Originally posted by KTigers
            Which is true. Not that it matters, but we can't actually say that.
            Yeah, but so what? It's cheap crap.

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            • Bloods05
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2008
              • 1641

              Originally posted by KTigers
              Which is true. Not that it matters, but we can't actually say that.
              They were born in a Melbourne boardroom. The very notion that they are a club that grew out of Sydney is ridiculous.

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              • Kafka's Ghost
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2017
                • 903

                A Lions-Giants GF; no Victorian team, an AFL admin thwarted and a media pack that’s lost its mind. I’d like to see that!


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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  Originally posted by BRS328
                  The Giants fade out in the last quarter coincided with the shoulder injury to Briggs which had a big impact on clearances. Anyone who thinks ruckmen are overrated should look at a replay of this game. This is why Grundy is crucial to the Swans in 2024. With the 6, 6, 6 rule centre clearances were the biggest issue Port had, and when Briggs went off there was a noticeable change in momentum. When he returned to the field he was clearly affected by the injury and was no longer as dominant
                  a) Flynn is no slouch, so if Briggs is unavailable they won't be completely stuffed for a ruckman.
                  b) And where is Ludwig?

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    Originally posted by Bloods05
                    They were born in a Melbourne boardroom. The very notion that they are a club that grew out of Sydney is ridiculous.
                    Do you reckon it was the same Melbourne boardroom that decided South Melbourne needed to move up to Sydney in the late
                    70s/early 80s? Cos I don't remember seeing any people up here marching down George St demanding Sydney have its own
                    VFL team.

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                    • Bloods05
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1641

                      Originally posted by KTigers
                      Do you reckon it was the same Melbourne boardroom that decided South Melbourne needed to move up to Sydney in the late
                      70s/early 80s? Cos I don't remember seeing any people up here marching down George St demanding Sydney have its own
                      VFL team.
                      So what? They're the ones making the claim, not us. We know who we are and we are comfortable with that. They are trying to invent an identity based on a falsehood. Two very different things.

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        I think Mountain Man said it was just one person at Adelaide Oval holding up a homemade sign that said "Sydney
                        Born". I guess it could spawn a movement that may require a referendum (or at least a voluntary postal vote)
                        at some stage, but it seems unlikely.

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                        • Blood Fever
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4048

                          Originally posted by Kafka's Ghost
                          A Lions-Giants GF; no Victorian team, an AFL admin thwarted and a media pack that’s lost its mind. I’d like to see that!


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                          There might even be a petition to try and move the game elsewhere on mental health grounds.

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                          • KTigers
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 2499

                            Originally posted by Blood Fever
                            There might even be a petition to try and move the game elsewhere on mental health grounds.
                            I was reading somewhere that in the event of a Lions-GWS GF the AFL were considering ways of incorporating AI into the
                            match as a way of limiting the long-term psychological damage on many Vics of an "alien" GF. Unfortunately, the AI department
                            at AFL House are the same boffins who've been working on goal line technology for the past decade, so they are really
                            hoping for a Carlton-Collingwood GF.

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                            • Meg
                              Go Swannies!
                              Site Admin
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4828

                              Originally posted by KTigers
                              I think Mountain Man said it was just one person at Adelaide Oval holding up a homemade sign that said "Sydney
                              Born".
                              The person might be an Adelaide resident who was ‘born in Sydney’, stating his/her support for GWS amidst a huge crowd of Port supporters.

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                              • Ruck'n'Roll
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                Originally posted by Bloods05
                                So what? They're the ones making the claim, not us. We know who we are and we are comfortable with that. They are trying to invent an identity based on a falsehood. Two very different things.
                                I guess the various Swans history threads just slipped past you?

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