2024 List Management

[UUaswan]

If he re signs timely, playing golf with 2 ex Swans is no big deal

[mcs]

Further to the story that Chad was seen playing Golf with West Coast officials on Monday, it has been revealed it was with CEO Don Pyke & Kieran Jack.

Cameron Mooney said this is a real bad look considering Chad's situation, even if he was friends with the two former Swans.

Sam Edmund reckons he'd be really surprised if Chad doesn't re-sign with the Swans for at least 2 years till he becomes a FA, considering where both clubs currently are in the premiership race.

I heard rumour during the mid season.break that Chad was seen having dinner with Freo officials. Not surprised Chad is being courted by WA clubs in this way. Hopeful he will re-sign with us.

On the final episode of "Gettable" yesterday, Callum Twomey predicted Chad's signing will drag late into next season as he tries to eek out maximum $$$$ either way.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sw...4662afee30fb32

I'm sure it will be dragged right out too - even if I believe the most likely outcome, as you suggest, is if he signs up a bit longer so to reach the FA point.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Snell, Riak and Edwards.

For me these are the 3 guys I will be watching like a hawk in pre season.

i honestly have no doubt they will be pushing for a roll in our backline through out 2025.

That opportunity may come via injury to an existing backline player or just via their performances in ressies demanding a start.

I suspect that these 3 guys have a real future at the Swans.

it is not inconceivable that we may see the likes of Blakey by year 2026 truly having more licence to roam due to one of these very mobile talls moving in as a permanent backline tall.

For me our new head of recruitment just looked like he found plutonium when picked up Riak.

Riak as he comes into his body over the next 12 to 18months is going to be very very exciting to watch.

Riak does not play like a 193cm tall. The guy is a square davinci. Vitruvian Man !!!!

His reach makes him play more like a 196cm tall but super mobile.

blaze away into our half court at your peril as we will be another level with a true x 2 cut off defender that ignites our rebound

[dejavoodoo44]

I'm sure it will be dragged right out too - even if I believe the most likely outcome, as you suggest, is if he signs up a bit longer so to reach the FA point.

Yes, and each week or two, we'll have people like Sam Edmund and Tom Morris, claiming that they have the latest inside information. When they've probably just been trawling through X and reading the X-cretions of guys who reckon that their brother in law saw Chad in the gym and Chad said ...

[UUaswan]

Yes, and each week or two, we'll have people like Sam Edmund and Tom Morris, claiming that they have the latest inside information. When they've probably just been trawling through X and reading the X-cretions of guys who reckon that their brother in law saw Chad in the gym and Chad said ...

I believe he will stay, just for how long.

If you wanted to leave you would be quiet about it knowing you have 12months remaining

If you wanted every cent available knowing what your giving up, you go play golf with 2 "ex-swans".

[Roadrunner]

I’m also very excited about young Riak, as well as our other young recruits Dattoli and Bowman. As you said Auntie, Snell and Edwards are showing a lot of promise and could take Lloyd’s spot as I don’t think he should be first choice every week now. I like Matty Roberts as he has pace and generally a good user of the ball with his kicking. Not sure where Braeden fits in- he’s too good to leave out but hasn’t really been consistent enough, though he has been moved around a fair bit. Maybe back pocket to relieve Harry?

Up front, Joel needs to show consistency as he’s had a good run of games, otherwise we need to blood Buller. As the GF showed, we need more depth in midfield though on paper this doesn’t look obvious. Can Sheldrick or Cleary step up? From what we’ve seen so far, I don’t think Adams is good enough anymore, so Coxy needs to work most on our midfield to both help our forwards and to stop our defenders being under siege. But hey, I’m saying the bleeding obvious!?

[imuninformedtwo]

I’m also very excited about young Riak, as well as our other young recruits Dattoli and Bowman. As you said Auntie, Snell and Edwards are showing a lot of promise and could take Lloyd’s spot as I don’t think he should be first choice every week now. I like Matty Roberts as he has pace and generally a good user of the ball with his kicking. Not sure where Braeden fits in- he’s too good to leave out but hasn’t really been consistent enough, though he has been moved around a fair bit. Maybe back pocket to relieve Harry?

Up front, Joel needs to show consistency as he’s had a good run of games, otherwise we need to blood Buller. As the GF showed, we need more depth in midfield though on paper this doesn’t look obvious. Can Sheldrick or Cleary step up? From what we’ve seen so far, I don’t think Adams is good enough anymore, so Coxy needs to work most on our midfield to both help our forwards and to stop our defenders being under siege. But hey, I’m saying the bleeding obvious!?

The club is particularly high on Snell. He is tracking towards a senior debut, possibly quite early depending on circumstances and injuries. If his trajectory remains the same, we should be very grateful to Mark McVeigh who insisted on his recruitment - having coached him in the Allies.

[Thunder Shaker]

Sam Edmund reckons he'd be really surprised if Chad doesn't re-sign with the Swans for at least 2 years till he becomes a FA, considering where both clubs currently are in the premiership race.

A 2-year deal would be a rubbish result. Then the speculation would start over in two years, with the added complication of the possibility of his departing via free agency. Free agency would be a bad outcome because the late first-round pick we would receive as compensation would be unders.

The possibilities:
(1) Chad signs a deal that makes him a Swan until he's at least 30 years old.
(2) He chooses to leave and we get two or three first-round picks in exchange.
(3) He signs a short deal to take him to free agency, then leaves via free agency and we get a late first-round pick for him.

I hope that option 1 happens. If he chooses to leave, I much prefer option 2 because getting back a single compensation pick in the teens would be unders. I would rather get trade value equivalent to multiple first-round picks than just one, especially with Academy player Max King being highly rated: 10 draft prospects to watch in 2025 (Cal Twomey, afl.com.au).

[UUaswan]

I hope he stays Long term

We could do a 3yr deal with the view to reassess after 2yrs.

1- Add 2 yrs to the 3 or
2 - Seek a trade back home with a year to run and therefore hold leverage at the trade table

[imuninformedtwo]

When does this become the new 2025 list management thread?

[Industrial Fan]

I’d be giving Warner a clear path forward, and if he doesn’t like the offer he can go. We’d get a premium for him if the trade happens on our terms and can split his value to increase our depth.

Don’t think there’s many players beyond Errol and Blakey I’d have a “not for sale” sign for personally. We don’t want to let it drag out and get another Dawson trade.

[Nico]

Just for the heck off it I looked up Ben Paton on the Saints site. 26yo medium defender at 187cm from North Albury. Recovered from broken leg and this year a ruptured tendon. Below average in all stats on front page, i.e. disposals, kicks, tackles, marks, handballs and meters gained. Why did we recruit him when he is not good enough for the Saints and we have also taken Bice, Andrew, and Leidler for a similar role as well as retaining Francis and Hamling. In my view we have the least need for an injury prone medium defender of any of the positions on our list. Does anybody disagree?

We don't need another list clogger.

[Roadrunner]

We don't need another list clogger.

Agreed but seeing we’ve got him, let’s give him a go. We’re not risking much in the ressies and he could help some of our young players as they need to play better footie and win more games. They’ve been pretty underwhelming this year.

[KSAS]

I’d be giving Warner a clear path forward, and if he doesn’t like the offer he can go. We’d get a premium for him if the trade happens on our terms and can split his value to increase our depth.

Don’t think there’s many players beyond Errol and Blakey I’d have a “not for sale” sign for personally. We don’t want to let it drag out and get another Dawson trade.

We would've been better off to have done that during this trade period, as we would've got 2 x top 10 picks minimum for Chad in such a highly rated (Super) draft, whilst year remaining on his contract. He would of course had to agree with that.

The club may've possiblely had that in mind from its Dawson learnings, but getting Chad to re-sign is the utmost preferred option whilst we're in the window.

Hopefully the club has an inkling that Chad will sign on. I'm optimistic he'll do so to FA (2 years minimum hoping 4+).

[Roadrunner]

We would've been better off to have done that during this trade period, as we would've got 2 x top 10 picks minimum for Chad in such a highly rated (Super) draft, whilst year remaining on his contract. He would of course had to agree with that.

The club may've possiblely had that in mind from its Dawson learnings, but getting Chad to re-sign is the utmost preferred option whilst we're in the window.

Hopefully the club has an inkling that Chad will sign on. I'm optimistic he'll do so to FA (2 years minimum hoping 4+).

The club will make the best offer it can- everyone knows his ability and we all want to keep him. But if his head is turned, we need to act as we don’t want another Dawso scenario. Every player has to be 100% committed- simple as that and if someone wants to go home and play elsewhere then just say so and we’ll get the best deal we can. It was different with Parks as his career is coming to an end and it’s understandable he wants to extend it as far as possible and then of course the money that comes with it. Nevertheless, I would have preferred him to stay and play with us for his 300th and beyond, and be a 1 club champion.

Chad, please decide now what you want to do- you owe it to the club!