Spida coming to Swannies

[stellation]

Re: Spider heading To Sydney

Originally posted by gloveski
Sydney are denying they are chasing Spider but Saddington and Powell have been rumoured to be part of a trade package.

Where did you hear that them deny it? I have only heard Roos deny he was chasing Power so far.

[hammo]

Re: swans fans 4 spida

Originally posted by aceman
i think somebody from this board should contact peter's ppl & make known how happy we'd b 2 c him in swans colors.

I wish I'd heard this rumour before the weekend as Spida was at the pub I was at in Richmond after the grand final.

[Ryan Bomford]

Originally posted by ugg
Sure it would a fabulous trade if we could score Spida for 2 players who aren't in our best 22. I don't think it will happen though. Everitt will be in demand and we can't play hardball like we did with Davis. Expect at least pick 19 to go in the deal, if not more. I believe the status with Everitt is that the club are entertaining offers, but are in no hurry to discard him. If they don't receive a valuable deal, i don't think they will go for it.

Or to view this from a different angle. If we had Spider and a club offered us 2 fringe players, do you think we would take it?

I agree with this assessment - this just doesn't make sense from a Hawks perspective. Why would they think that they could turn around these two players who've had lots of time to show their potential. Can't see it happening as is.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by barry
I'm sorry to offend you Matt, but buying ageing top up players has been the undoing of this club for the previous 22 years.

Our trading under Roos has been for talent with many years left in them (ie Davis and Jolly). We tried desperately to not use the No.1 pick for Jolly, but werent able to pull it off.

I'd rather keep the first round pick so we can at least go some way to building a competitive team 4 years down the track when Spider is long gone. Discarding 2 first round picks in two years doesnt bode well for the future.

Simplistic and wrong.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the recruitments of Wiliams, Healy, Lockett, Roos and Schwass. All of them happened at times when the club could look forward and see a chance of a flag within the time that those players would be there. We did not lose the '86 and '87 finals because we imported a whole lot of players - we got there because of them, but they were physically stuffed because of bad training regimes. We did not lose the '96 GF, '97 QF and '98 SF because we had Lockett, Roos and Schwass in the team. We lost because we came up against better sides on the day. Without Lockett, it's unlikely we would have been there in '96 and '98.

We know we are a flag chance. We proved it this year! It seems entirely logical to replace the only component of that team - an experienced ruckman - that we have lost, so that we can try and go back to back.

[cruiser]

Originally posted by barry
I'd rather keep the first round pick so we can at least go some way to building a competitive team 4 years down the track when Spider is long gone. Discarding 2 first round picks in two years doesnt bode well for the future.

We have a competetive premiership winning team now. Now is the time to go for more premierships, not in 4 bloody years time!

[RogueSwan]

Re: swans fans 4 spida

Originally posted by aceman
2 come 2 sydney 2 check things out

good points but really how hard is it to type "to" instead "2"?
You do have a keyboard not a mobile don't you?

[cruiser]

Originally posted by Charlie
Simplistic and wrong.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the recruitments of Wiliams, Healy, Lockett, Roos and Schwass. All of them happened at times when the club could look forward and see a chance of a flag within the time that those players would be there. We did not lose the '86 and '87 finals because we imported a whole lot of players - we got there because of them, but they were physically stuffed because of bad training regimes. We did not lose the '96 GF, '97 QF and '98 SF because we had Lockett, Roos and Schwass in the team. We lost because we came up against better sides on the day. Without Lockett, it's unlikely we would have been there in '96 and '98.

We know we are a flag chance. We proved it this year! It seems entirely logical to replace the only component of that team - an experienced ruckman - that we have lost, so that we can try and go back to back.

I totally agree with everything Charlie has said. You can also add Schauble and Ball to that list.

[Sean]

I agree with Charlie. With the way that the AFL is now structured, teams need to really go for it when their premiership window opens.

Teams have been criticised in the past for "topping up", including us, but that ignores the fact that teams have topped up and then won flags. Look at Brisbane - they added players to their side when they needed to.

Saddo & Powell for Everitt would be a good deal. I wouldn't be keen on adding our first draft pick but that's because I think it's too expensive - not because I don't think we should trade it.

[stevej]

I reckon Fosdike will be in the mix somewhere in this deal. back to Adelaide or Port for a first round pick enabling us to keep pick 19.
Not that i want to see one of our PREMIERSHIP players go but he did want out last year.

Saddo, Powelly, and fossies draft pick for Spida!!

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by barry
I'd rather keep the first round pick so we can at least go some way to building a competitive team 4 years down the track when Spider is long gone. Discarding 2 first round picks in two years doesnt bode well for the future.

I'd rather make hay while the sun shines. We only get a few more years out of players like Hall, MO'L, Barry, Williams, etc, so we may as well see what we can grab now. Top-ups will give us more chance of grabbing another flag in '06 or '07, while it remains fairly open.

Also, Hawthorn planned to use Everitt in the goal square for most of this season, so it's not quite the same as them giving up their main ruckman.

Saddington adds some experience to a young side, possibly for 5 years, and Powell has lots of potential and the Hawks may be able to unlock it.

[hammo]

Originally posted by stevej
I reckon Fosdike will be in the mix somewhere in this deal. back to Adelaide or Port for a first round pick enabling us to keep pick 19.
Not that i want to see one of our PREMIERSHIP players go but he did want out last year.

Saddo, Powelly, and fossies draft pick for Spida!!

I don't think it will happen. Fosdike was injured last season and his position in the 22 uncertain. Totally different now plus he's happy in Sydney.

[Ryan Bomford]

Originally posted by NMWBloods

Saddington adds some experience to a young side, possibly for 5 years, and Powell has lots of potential and the Hawks may be able to unlock it.

But these players won't turn around the fortunes of the Hawks now or into the future and that's the kind of players that Clarkson will be looking for IMO.

[Sanecow]

I would like to see Everitt with the Swans but I was excited and hopeful when Plugger came back, Dermie signed, Allison signed etc etc so I will keep a lid on any over-enthusiastic response.

[giant]

I'm in the Charlie camp - I thought we'd chase Spida last yr so I'd be delighted if we can pick him up this year.

One qn - Spida does a lot of media stuff in Melbourne presumably for big $$$$. How does Sydney compensate him for that? Besides enabling him to win a flag I mean.

Perhaps he can get a job as moderator on RWO - I hear that pays the big bikkies!

[barry]

Originally posted by Charlie
Simplistic and wrong.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the recruitments of Wiliams, Healy, Lockett, Roos and Schwass.

None of them were 31. Except maybe Roos, and his recruitment took a while to pay off into a premiership. (But I doubt there has been a more favourable trade in AFL history).

Ask yourself this. If we had lost the semi to Geelong, would you still be pushing this trade ?