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We need to keep Ladhams. He was very good against Geelong.
Plan A: Keep him.
Plan B: If he wants to go elsewhere, get as much as possible for him. Possible trades: (1) A future first-round pick, (2) points-bearing picks of equivalent value to a first-round pick in this year's draft, (3) second-round pick and a good young KPD or KPF who isn't getting games and wants more opportunities.
I know that I may be a bit over regarding his trade value. Good established rucks are hard to find and any club trading out a ruck can demand overs and may get them. Look at the TDK circus at Carlton and St Kilda for an example.
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We need to keep Ladhams. He was very good against Geelong.
Plan A: Keep him.
Plan B: If he wants to go elsewhere, get as much as possible for him. Possible trades: (1) A future first-round pick, (2) points-bearing picks of equivalent value to a first-round pick in this year's draft, (3) second-round pick and a good young KPD or KPF who isn't getting games and wants more opportunities.
I know that I may be a bit over regarding his trade value. Good established rucks are hard to find and any club trading out a ruck can demand overs and may get them. Look at the TDK circus at Carlton and St Kilda for an example.
The Coaches don't rate him enough to play him and when you look at who we have out as far as talls, id be staggered if he is on out list next year. Throw in the potential development of Green then Ladhams definately isn't in this clubs calculations.
Based on not playing him, we will be lucky to get a pick upgrade.Comment
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I rate Ladhams and have said all year he should be playing. He would be even better if he was given a decent run at it.
The Coaches don't rate him enough to play him and when you look at who we have out as far as talls, id be staggered if he is on out list next year. Throw in the potential development of Green then Ladhams definately isn't in this clubs calculations.
Based on not playing him, we will be lucky to get a pick upgrade.
How is it possible that the opposition backs outnumber us time and time again? Why do our forwards drift away? It just makes it so easy for the opposition to mop up without any pressure and makes it difficult for us to notch a winning score. Maybe it’s the coaching but our players need to take responsibility too!
Let’s assess the squad after next week’s game and discuss what we need for 2026 and beyond. For me, only around half the current team is good enough- we are seriously lacking consistency and unfortunately I think this is due to a lack of talent on our list, if I’m being realistic.
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We need to keep Ladhams. He was very good against Geelong.
Plan A: Keep him.
Plan B: If he wants to go elsewhere, get as much as possible for him. Possible trades: (1) A future first-round pick, (2) points-bearing picks of equivalent value to a first-round pick in this year's draft, (3) second-round pick and a good young KPD or KPF who isn't getting games and wants more opportunities.
I know that I may be a bit over regarding his trade value. Good established rucks are hard to find and any club trading out a ruck can demand overs and may get them. Look at the TDK circus at Carlton and St Kilda for an example.
Green will become a fine ruckman in time, but is nowhere near ready yet to take on that 2nd ruck role, if there was a change in the sub rule. And if Ladhams was to go, we will still need to replace him anyway, even if that rule doesn't change."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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How is it possible that the opposition backs outnumber us time and time again? Why do our forwards drift away? It just makes it so easy for the opposition to mop up without any pressure and makes it difficult for us to notch a winning score. Maybe it’s the coaching but our players need to take responsibility too!
Paps and Wilbur are crumbers or take marks on the lead, they aren't contested options, especially when they are undersize
Not sure Ladhams is trusting Cox's presser talk, he only got a game as Grundy was injured.
He would be mad to stick around if he got an offer elsewhereComment
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They haven't played Ladhams all year which means we dont have permanent fwds to take marks and thats why decent opposition backs kill us unless Heeney plays out of his mind.
Paps and Wilbur are crumbers or take marks on the lead, they aren't contested options, especially when they are undersize
Not sure Ladhams is trusting Cox's presser talk, he only got a game as Grundy was injured.
He would be mad to stick around if he got an offer elsewhere
While I’m at it, I’m also disappointed with Chad’s game- he doesn’t do enough damage when he gets the ball- similar for Errol lately but he has been out for a long time. So at the moment it’s a case of no Isaac, no Swans and this my friends is a recipe for our position on the ladder.
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He wouldn’t be No.1. In any top 8 team- so he may as well stay as our No 2 until Green is ready, which is at least a year away. We all know that McLean needs to play forward and we can’t rely on Logan or Joel due their injury history. Yesterday Buller and McLean were our talls up forward so no excuse for our smaller forwards in Paps, Hayward, Dettoli and Campbell. Paps did a few nice things but generally well below par. Dettoli is just a prospect right now and needs a lot more time in the ressies. Campbell needs to toughen up- he can’t land a tackle and drifts out of the game. Wilbur is injured and was invisible. Buller is far from ready for AFL and his goal kicking is bad and needs to improve if he wants to play senior footy. So we can’t let Ladhams go- we need at least 2 more quality talls if we are to challenge.
While I’m at it, I’m also disappointed with Chad’s game- he doesn’t do enough damage when he gets the ball- similar for Errol lately but he has been out for a long time. So at the moment it’s a case of no Isaac, no Swans and this my friends is a recipe for our position on the ladder.
The point is you need at least 2 permanent tall Fwds to bring your smalls into play.
Due to injury atm we have 1 and thats Buller who can't be expected to do much given his experience.
Mclean rucking affects his time fwd, rinse and repeat.
On a side note, we probably have the best small fwds/mids in the game for goalkicking, at least last year we did when they played with talls.
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While I’m at it, I’m also disappointed with Chad’s game- he doesn’t do enough damage when he gets the ball- similar for Errol lately but he has been out for a long time. So at the moment it’s a case of no Isaac, no Swans and this my friends is a recipe for our position on the ladder.
Paps, Wilbur, Heeney, look at their tallies.
Let's not pretend Chad was lacing people out, he just went long and Team selection makes that look stupid this yearComment
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There have been a lot of murmurs around that there is a good chance the sub rule will disappear, and that they'll move to a straight 5 on the bench. If that happens, there is a big chance teams will move to playing 2 genuine ruckman again. In that case, Ladhams is critical to keep. He has seemingly found a way to control the 'unhinged' part of his game that really held him back, and I thought he was pretty decent in a well beaten side yesterday.
Green will become a fine ruckman in time, but is nowhere near ready yet to take on that 2nd ruck role, if there was a change in the sub rule. And if Ladhams was to go, we will still need to replace him anyway, even if that rule doesn't change.
He was a bit of a revelation yesterday. One of the few players who actually had a crack, and he showed some deft skill at times. He also showed he can be as dangerous as a forward as the rest of our talls. His goal kicking is a bit iffy - and I suspect will remain a bit iffy until he retires - but that's true of all our tall forwards (and some of our shorter ones).Comment
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But despite that, I was aware throughout that Cameron hadn't kicked a goal (yet). And then the end of the game came and Cameron still hadn't kicked a goal. But I wasn't paying enough attention to truly appreciate why he hadn't kicked a goal, and I deleted the recording of the game from my IQ as soon as I got home. I have some needles to stick in my eyeballs if I want to torture myself.
But can anyone provide reasons why Cameron didn't kick a goal? The reason I'm asking this in response to a post about Rampe is that a couple of times I saw Rampe was on Cameron, and wondered if he was on him for large stretches of the match and, if so, did he do a good blanketing job? Or were there other reasons why Cameron didn't kick a goal.
I have reservations about Rampe next season but his value on the list will depend on who else / how many more we decide to jettison. If he's still capable of quelling a player of Cameron's potency, I'm more likely to be persuaded that he's worth hanging on to for another year.Comment
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So one thing we did well with list managament is get Errol for $1m a year. Nasiah just signed for $2m a year with the Saints. Like. he's a beautiful player and so far ahead of the rest of his team mates it's ridiculous. But that makes Errol a bargain buy.Comment
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