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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
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    • Jan 2003
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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      Nowadays Hall is virtually impotent. When a Geelong player went back with the flight of the ball in the final quarter at Skilled Stadium on Saturday and stepped into the path of the oncoming Hall, he propped and allowed his opposition player through to take the mark.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
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      • Bear
        Best and Fairest
        • Feb 2003
        • 1022

        Originally posted by Frosty13
        I guess the great #4 was lucky to be playing in a side that had the most sublime players in the caper. The likes of Kelly and Frosty are the first that come to mind.
        You draw a veeeeeeeeeeery long bow
        "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
        Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          Premature obituary IMO. A different view from this:
          Adam Goodes says Swans teammate Barry Hall an easy target after loss | Daily Telegraph
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • Robbo
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2007
            • 2946

            Originally posted by Plugger46
            But I also think there's a good chance that Kirk, O'Loughlin, J.Bolton, O'Keefe or Goodes will be around when we're next in contention for a flag. Do you want to get rid of all of them too?
            I think O'Keefe is young enough to still be around when we have another premiership tilt.

            The others you mentioned are still playing very well.

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            • Bloody Hell
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2006
              • 3085

              Originally posted by Robbo
              I think O'Keefe is young enough to still be around when we have another premiership tilt.

              The others you mentioned are still playing very well.
              I'm going to be murdered for this - but I'd like to see O'Keefe moved to the HB Line to shore up a questionable defence. He get's down there often enough and looks excellent playing the "quarterback" role with the ball in hands.

              He was drafted as a BP, so he knows how to play defensively. I think it would give players like Meredith and Vespa more of an opportunity up forward. ie Better to blood the youth in the forward part of the ground.

              The back 6 would be in much better shape if his name was amoungst them.
              The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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              • DeadlyAkkuret
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2006
                • 4547

                Agree with BH, Ryan-O should be able to handle a defensive role as he's quite strong and probably our best mark.

                On another note, and I might get bashed for this, but I'd almost like to see Hall play his final 2 years or so for another club to see if he really would do better with cleaner/quicker delivery into the F50.



                (ducks for cover)

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                • Blood
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 164

                  Originally posted by Bear
                  Yes, the guy is a tool and carries on like a child - often unreasonably - but from a pure football perspective, he is absolutely in our best 18.

                  If kicked to with some skill and speed he wins far more 50/50s than he loses, or creates opportunities for smaller forwards to crum. But we just don't play that game plan which is so frustrating for him and me.

                  I would not want to play FF in a team that takes so long to deliver the ball to the forwards.

                  I reckon even the great #4 (no, not Mathews) would struggle to kick goals with our slow-moving, uncontested style of play. It gives opposition midfielders (and forwards!) way too much time to flood into defence.
                  100% smack bang on the money.

                  You almost get the feeling that if the great man was watching on Saturday that he'd have shed tears of pity for BBBH.
                  Sydney Swans - Finals bound in 2011

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                  • Plugger46
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 3674

                    Originally posted by Robbo
                    I think O'Keefe is young enough to still be around when we have another premiership tilt.

                    The others you mentioned are still playing very well.
                    Up until the weekend Hall was also making a contribution. He will again throughout the year.
                    Bloods

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                    • ernie koala
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2007
                      • 3251

                      Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                      Agree with BH, Ryan-O should be able to handle a defensive role as he's quite strong and probably our best mark.

                      On another note, and I might get bashed for this, but I'd almost like to see Hall play his final 2 years or so for another club to see if he really would do better with cleaner/quicker delivery into the F50.
                      (ducks for cover)
                      I agree, I'm surprised the Doggies didn't go harder to sercure him. They badly need a big strong forward, and I'm sure he'd like to be on the end of Gilbee and co kicks with acker and Johnson at his feet.
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                      • bandwagon
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2003
                        • 527

                        Very good article in The Age by Martin Blake - about how Hall has been unable to adapt to the rule changes since 2007 and therefore is no longer a dominant forward.

                        I'm sure someone more internet savvy than me can post a link.

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                        • reigning premier
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 4335

                          Originally posted by bandwagon
                          Very good article in The Age by Martin Blake - about how Hall has been unable to adapt to the rule changes since 2007 and therefore is no longer a dominant forward.

                          I'm sure someone more internet savvy than me can post a link.
                          I would but I read the article and it's a crock of @@@@......

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                          • Bear
                            Best and Fairest
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 1022

                            Originally posted by reigning premier
                            I would but I read the article and it's a crock of @@@@......
                            Agreed. The theory he uses is a load of crap. He hasn't watched too many Swans games.
                            "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                            Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                            • Bear
                              Best and Fairest
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1022

                              Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                              I'm going to be murdered for this - but I'd like to see O'Keefe ... playing the "quarterback" role ...
                              You're right - the "quarterback" term is a terrible word to use in Australian football!
                              "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                              Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                              • Hartijon
                                On the Rookie List
                                • May 2008
                                • 1536

                                Originally posted by Bear
                                Agreed. The theory he uses is a load of crap. He hasn't watched too many Swans games.
                                Yeah,the new rules actually should help Hall because the opposition hold him ,hit his arms,punch his head and block his path,etc etc.The problem is the umpires do not pay the free to him. Like Locket before him who the opposition could put a saddle on and he would still not get a free!
                                Umpires make their minds up to make life unbearable for big fiery guys,maybe they are scared of them?

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