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  • Donners
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 1061

    He didn't deserve to be dropped after round 1, so I suppose dropping him now would be consistent if nothing else.

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    • TheMase
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1207

      Originally posted by reigning premier

      But is Davis really not stepping up to the plate????
      I am not sure at the moment to be honest. His efforts looked haphazard at times on the weekend. Like he was doing it because he was being told to do it, rather than wanting, or having the energy to do it.

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        Originally posted by TheMase
        Do we have room for a guy who will provide at 40%, even if sometimes he does something spectacular?

        Do we drop the young guys, giving 110%, for Davis to stay in the side?
        That is the myth being perpetuated by Roos but is not backed up by any evidence in the games he has played.
        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          Originally posted by hammo
          That is the myth being perpetuated by Roos but is not backed up by any evidence in the games he has played.
          I think the circumstantial evidence suggests that Roos really doesn't like Davis. Certainly Davis doesn't do himself any favours by not performing as well as he could, but that's not why he is dropped.

          After the 2005 SF Roos doesn't really comment on the fabulous game Davis plays (and as a result meant that Roos won the premiership he wouldn't have won otherwise), instead focussing on other aspects, like Ablett's tap in from the boundary line.

          In 2006 Davis was definitely made the scapegoat. His numbers were pretty good in the first half of the year, getting disposals, goals and tackles. Far better than MOL or McVeigh for example, yet Davis is made example of for two months.

          Since he came back he has been playing off the bench for much of that time with reduced minutes and far less as a target. Despite that his 2007 numbers are still good - better than MOL or McVeigh again for example.

          Yet, one game into 2008 and again he is dropped. Performs well in the reserves, Roos says he has earned his spot back, then Davis plays only average, and Roos does an about face to say he hadn't earned his spot back, and Davis is dropped again.

          And people continue to believe this line Roos has been spinning for a few years.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • ROK Lobster
            RWO Life Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 8658

            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            I think the circumstantial evidence suggests that Roos really doesn't like Davis. Certainly Davis doesn't do himself any favours by not performing as well as he could, but that's not why he is dropped.

            After the 2005 SF Roos doesn't really comment on the fabulous game Davis plays (and as a result meant that Roos won the premiership he wouldn't have won otherwise), instead focussing on other aspects, like Ablett's tap in from the boundary line.

            In 2006 Davis was definitely made the scapegoat. His numbers were pretty good in the first half of the year, getting disposals, goals and tackles. Far better than MOL or McVeigh for example, yet Davis is made example of for two months.

            Since he came back he has been playing off the bench for much of that time with reduced minutes and far less as a target. Despite that his 2007 numbers are still good - better than MOL or McVeigh again for example.

            Yet, one game into 2008 and again he is dropped. Performs well in the reserves, Roos says he has earned his spot back, then Davis plays only average, and Roos does an about face to say he hadn't earned his spot back, and Davis is dropped again.

            And people continue to believe this line Roos has been spinning for a few years.
            Most damning in my eyes was the time in the last qtr of the 2006 grand final that Davis spent on the bench. It almost seemed to say that Roos would rather lose than allow Nick to win it.

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            • stellation
              scott names the planets
              • Sep 2003
              • 9723

              Originally posted by ROK Lobster
              Most damning in my eyes was the time in the last qtr of the 2006 grand final that Davis spent on the bench. It almost seemed to say that Roos would rather lose than allow Nick to win it.
              I think someone monumentally @@@@@@ up there with his rest times. Davis was also standing waiting to come on for what seemed like about 5 minutes as the runner tried to get the guy he was replacing off the ground.
              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                And then strangely after saying he will be dropped, he isn't. I wonder the point of Roos' little games.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • AussieAnge
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 1057

                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  I think the circumstantial evidence suggests that Roos really doesn't like Davis. Certainly Davis doesn't do himself any favours by not performing as well as he could, but that's not why he is dropped.

                  After the 2005 SF Roos doesn't really comment on the fabulous game Davis plays (and as a result meant that Roos won the premiership he wouldn't have won otherwise), instead focussing on other aspects, like Ablett's tap in from the boundary line.

                  In 2006 Davis was definitely made the scapegoat. His numbers were pretty good in the first half of the year, getting disposals, goals and tackles. Far better than MOL or McVeigh for example, yet Davis is made example of for two months.

                  Since he came back he has been playing off the bench for much of that time with reduced minutes and far less as a target. Despite that his 2007 numbers are still good - better than MOL or McVeigh again for example.

                  Yet, one game into 2008 and again he is dropped. Performs well in the reserves, Roos says he has earned his spot back, then Davis plays only average, and Roos does an about face to say he hadn't earned his spot back, and Davis is dropped again.

                  And people continue to believe this line Roos has been spinning for a few years.
                  Well said. I suspect Davis will give the game away at the end of his contract.
                  It reminds of working for a boss who no matter how good you are refuses to acknowledge your efforts, eventually you think "sod this for a game of soldiers why should I bother working my butt off when others round here get more credit for doing less?". I suspect many of us have been in a similar situation.
                  Bring it on!

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                  • ROK Lobster
                    RWO Life Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 8658

                    Originally posted by AussieAnge
                    I suspect many of us have been in a similar situation.
                    I am universally admired

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                      I am universally admired
                      In you own lunch box!


                      PS: looks like Roos made a huge @@@@ up this weekend.......................Dropped the wrong Nick.

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                      • ROK Lobster
                        RWO Life Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 8658

                        Originally posted by ScottH
                        In you own lunch box!


                        PS: looks like Roos made a huge @@@@ up this weekend.......................Dropped the wrong Nick.
                        Does that mean Greg Ritchie will have to open?

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                          Does that mean Greg Ritchie will have to open?
                          woosh!

                          I missed that one.

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                          • swantastic
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 7275

                            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                            Most damning in my eyes was the time in the last qtr of the 2006 grand final that Davis spent on the bench. It almost seemed to say that Roos would rather lose than allow Nick to win it.
                            Its called rotations and they all have to do it,i'm not agreeing with it because when it comes down to the wire you want your best goal kickers on the park.

                            IMHO Davis is one of our best goal kickers so he should have been left on the park.
                            Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                            • swantastic
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 7275

                              Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                              Does that mean Greg Ritchie will have to open?
                              If theres food involved he'll be there.
                              Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                              • connolly
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 2461

                                Originally posted by AussieAnge
                                Well said. I suspect Davis will give the game away at the end of his contract.
                                It reminds of working for a boss who no matter how good you are refuses to acknowledge your efforts, eventually you think "sod this for a game of soldiers why should I bother working my butt off when others round here get more credit for doing less?". I suspect many of us have been in a similar situation.
                                Not really. Been given the arse a few times but Davo has developed bludging into an art form.
                                Bevo bandwagon driver

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