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  • stellation
    scott names the planets
    • Sep 2003
    • 9720

    Originally posted by Paul Roos
    and then there is the disappointment of being dropped, so you don't expect guys to immediately go back to the seconds and immediately set the world on fire.

    Our expectations may have to change!
    Originally posted by Paul Roos
    He was probably getting close to playing again and he had a back injury and didn't play last week.
    I fear for the dogs on Reggi and connolly's respective streets if Nick is named in the seniors again, there'll be a kickin' a plenty!
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
      I don't know for sure NMW, but considering he wanted to come to Sydney, you'd imagine he'd be happier if he's where he wants to be.
      Maybe, but we don't really know everything about the background behind the move to Sydney and what is happening now.

      Originally posted by Paul Roos
      "We still rate him as a player, he has got talent and he can play. He is certainly one that when he is up and running and fit and doing all the things that he can do then he is a very, very good AFL player. If he gets back to that level he definitely will be in the best 22."
      ...
      "He was not noticeably unfit, it wasn't something where we said, 'Look, you have to lose three kilos' or anything like that. It was more, and he said himself, the tell-tale sign was when he missed a few set shots against the Kangas that he realised himself then how down on confidence he was and he is a really confident guy.
      So it continues. I think Davis needs a new manager.
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • connolly
        Registered User
        • Aug 2005
        • 2461

        Originally posted by NMWBloods
        Maybe, but we don't really know everything about the background behind the move to Sydney and what is happening now.

        So it continues. I think Davis needs a new manager.
        Roosey is talking up the trade. When Thommo fronts up for the annual contract negotiations the champ will be offered a pie, Krispy Kream and a can of coke for a game (disdained the KFC reference).
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        • connolly
          Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 2461

          Originally posted by stellation

          Our expectations may have to change!

          I fear for the dogs on Reggi and connolly's respective streets if Nick is named in the seniors again, there'll be a kickin' a plenty!
          Not at all Benny Mathews got a game. Davo might snag one as well to put some icing on the trade offer. Freo would fall for it.
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          • swansrule100
            The quarterback
            • May 2004
            • 4538

            Originally posted by connolly
            Roosey is talking up the trade. When Thommo fronts up for the annual contract negotiations the champ will be offered a pie, Krispy Kream and a can of coke for a game (disdained the KFC reference).
            davis could be picked and made captain of the club and youd find some way to make it seem negative for his future
            Theres not much left to say

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            • swansrule100
              The quarterback
              • May 2004
              • 4538

              the article today with actual roos quotes is interesting. Probably some of the best stuff he has said about davis. Says what most of who actually watch games (ie not connolly) that davis is a confidence player and a matchwinner.

              I think he isnt far off getting back if he keeps working hard. I imagine he will also have next year to keep fighting back, ball is in his court.

              I think the things roosy also says have to put to bed a lot of doubts i have had over the treatment of davis, still some wierd things in comparison to others but oh well, as we all know we arent privvy to the goings on inside the club
              Theres not much left to say

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              • Wardy
                The old Boiler!
                • Sep 2003
                • 6676

                Originally posted by swansrule100
                davis could be picked and made captain of the club and youd find some way to make it seem negative for his future

                yeah well unless its Paul Bevan - then no one else makes it onto Connolly's all too creepy "I love Paul bevan and if could have his kids I would" radar! because P Bevan is the greatest player ever to play the game apparently!
                Last edited by Wardy; 3 July 2008, 08:49 AM.
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                • hammo
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 5554

                  Interesting that Roos himself would nominate confidence as a factor in Davis' struggles this year.

                  Anyway some encouraging words at last from Roos and it seems Davis is closer to a return than previously thought.
                  "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                  • hammo
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5554

                    Originally posted by connolly
                    He's played at and failed at two clubs with strong team ethos and team traditions. But hey its Roos and Malthouse fault. Pathetic
                    That's a ridiculous comment. How are you judging failure? Collingwood didn't want to let him go and he single-handedly won a final in Sydney which ultimately led to a premiership.
                    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                    • goswannie14
                      Leadership Group
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 11166

                      Originally posted by connolly
                      He's played at and failed at two clubs with strong team ethos and team traditions. But hey its Roos and Malthouse fault. Pathetic
                      In your opinion he may have failed at Sydney, but he was still in the team at Collingwood when he wanted to be traded, hence the tirade from Malthouse. To read any differently into what was said is just stupid.

                      You have a bad habit of putting words into peoples posts that aren't there. I said nothing about it being the coaches fault. I challenged your false assertions. To try to deflect the argument on another tangent is a sign that you have no reasoned point to argue.

                      Originally posted by swansrule100
                      As for collingwood, they were angry to lose him hence their comments, they just felt betrayed.
                      Which is exactly why I challenged connolly's incorrect interpretation of the comments by Malthouse.
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                      • swansrule100
                        The quarterback
                        • May 2004
                        • 4538

                        Originally posted by hammo
                        Interesting that Roos himself would nominate confidence as a factor in Davis' struggles this year.

                        Anyway some encouraging words at last from Roos and it seems Davis is closer to a return than previously thought.
                        probably been round at paul bevans getting some pointers on being a match winner and dominating in the afl.
                        Theres not much left to say

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                        • Wardy
                          The old Boiler!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 6676

                          Originally posted by hammo
                          Interesting that Roos himself would nominate confidence as a factor in Davis' struggles this year.

                          Anyway some encouraging words at last from Roos and it seems Davis is closer to a return than previously thought.

                          indeed - let hope the boy gets his act together, mojo back,confidence up and make a good return. time will tell.
                          I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                          Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                          AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                          • connolly
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 2461

                            Originally posted by goswannie14
                            In your opinion he may have failed at Sydney, but he was still in the team at Collingwood when he wanted to be traded, hence the tirade from Malthouse. To read any differently into what was said is just stupid.
                            You have a bad habit of putting words into peoples posts that aren't there. I said nothing about it being the coaches fault. I challenged your false assertions. To try to deflect the argument on another tangent is a sign that you have no reasoned point to argue.

                            Which is exactly why I challenged connolly's incorrect interpretation of the comments by Malthouse.
                            This must take the pot calling the kettle black award. So Malthouse wanted Davo. Do ya reckon he'll take him back. You have asserted a breathtaking and completetely unsubstantiated conclusion that Malthouse wanted Davis to stay at Collingwood. And this in the face of the man's unequivocal words that:

                            1. Collingwood didn't want Davis
                            2. He wasn't wanted because he was not a good person

                            Your assertion that Malthouse attacked Davis character because he was piqued has absolutely no basis in evidence or any reasonable imputation.
                            And you then grandly assert that a literal reading of Malthouses words is the weakest argument you have seen here. Breathtaking! Oxygen!!!!
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                            • hammo
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5554

                              Originally posted by connolly
                              This must take the pot calling the kettle black award. So Malthouse wanted Davo. Do ya reckon he'll take him back. You have asserted a breathtaking and completetely unsubstantiated conclusion that Malthouse wanted Davis to stay at Collingwood. And this in the face of the man's unequivocal words that:

                              1. Collingwood didn't want Davis
                              2. He wasn't wanted because he was not a good person
                              Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse's words were frank. "We are disappointed that Nick Davis is gone," he said. "But as we have said before, we only want good people at this football club."
                              Davis back with his blood - realfooty.com.au

                              What part of "we are disappointed that Nick Davis is gone" don't you understand?

                              Also, if Collingwood didn't want him, why was he offered a new contract during the 2002 season?
                              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                              • connolly
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 2461

                                Originally posted by hammo
                                That's a ridiculous comment. How are you judging failure? Collingwood didn't want to let him go and he single-handedly won a final in Sydney which ultimately led to a premiership.
                                He failed the most important test an elite footballer can be put to. He is not a good clubman, team player nor does he work for the team. Perhaps you call selfishness success? I choose to see it as a failure of character. I think Mick Malthouse agrees with me. As for Roosey don't let the spin confuse the issue. Roosey is not going to let Thompson do what he did at St George - provoke an internal slanging match over a player who is going to be cut next season and divert the club from its objective of winning a flag.
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