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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    Originally posted by Kanga
    Do you expect me to respond to this drivel?

    Even Connolly comes up with a more mature and better argument. He can spell "relies" and "shinboner" properly too!
    Skip that praise is so faint it needs CPR. However, given the riverdance of approbation flowing over me at the moment i'll take anything. When your mob are put out of their misery next year you should come over to the angels (bloodstained).
    Bevo bandwagon driver

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    • royboy42
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2006
      • 2078

      [QUOTE=Cheer Squad;426139]Currently, we have around 18,500 members across both Sydney and Melbourne, with many members still continuing to renew their membership each week in the lead up to the start of the season.

      It seems to me that 18,500 at the start of feb when most of last years members who intended to renew, would have, is pretty poor.
      Maybe the softly softly approach where the club will individually contact members with seating choices and will still accept renewals (even at start of feb) when they were supposed to close mid december, is an indication of a bit of worry?
      Maybe the graduated pricing approach has alienated quite a few more members and ex-members than was anticipated?

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      • Nico
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 11339

        The budget went into deficit today and people are losing their jobs. As I understand NSW has officially been in recession for 12 months now, so you might expect some people will have other priorities with their money.

        What gets me is the club hikes up membership fees and/or tries to fleece people with fancy marketing/packages that only mean increases anyway. The banks are asked today to play their part and work through the situation with small business. Yet our mob haven't quite arrived on the planet when it comes to restraint. You can of course though opt for the painless extraction method over 11 months, but it 'aint" any cheaper.

        Me old mate Blind Freddie can see what's going on yet it appears we are intent on alienating supporters.

        The Salary Cap continues to rise so the AFL has a bit to answer for. If we have deflation will the salary Cap go down; not on your sweet Nellie. If things continue the way they are the next round of media bartering will be very interesting indeed.

        I say costs to members should be pegged for the next 2 years at least. Once you lose them it is very hard to get them back particularly if we take a dive down the ladder. And don't think it is just Sydney members who are fickle.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • connolly
          Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 2461

          Originally posted by Nico
          The budget went into deficit today and people are losing their jobs. As I understand NSW has officially been in recession for 12 months now, so you might expect some people will have other priorities with their money.

          What gets me is the club hikes up membership fees and/or tries to fleece people with fancy marketing/packages that only mean increases anyway. The banks are asked today to play their part and work through the situation with small business. Yet our mob haven't quite arrived on the planet when it comes to restraint. You can of course though opt for the painless extraction method over 11 months, but it 'aint" any cheaper.

          Me old mate Blind Freddie can see what's going on yet it appears we are intent on alienating supporters.

          The Salary Cap continues to rise so the AFL has a bit to answer for. If we have deflation will the salary Cap go down; not on your sweet Nellie. If things continue the way they are the next round of media bartering will be very interesting indeed.

          I say costs to members should be pegged for the next 2 years at least. Once you lose them it is very hard to get them back particularly if we take a dive down the ladder. And don't think it is just Sydney members who are fickle.
          Nico its going to be a depression in NSW. But we have a club "management"that is gouging its members whilst job lossess in Sydney's financial and retail land markets are staggering. Its not rocket science but the arse clowns in charge couldnt work it out. In hard times you actually DISCOUNT and go for growth in numbers.
          Bevo bandwagon driver

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          • Bear
            Best and Fairest
            • Feb 2003
            • 1022

            18,500 seems like a reasonable number at this stage.
            On par with last year i would say.
            Many will also be making a later decision due to the GFC (not Geelong Football Club).
            The Australian Government hand-outs will help too
            "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
            Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              Originally posted by Bear
              18,500 seems like a reasonable number at this stage.
              On par with last year i would say.
              Many will also be making a later decision due to the GFC (not Geelong Football Club).
              The Australian Government hand-outs will help too
              It's a BEAR market so it might be a very late decision, too late for 2009.

              Then again KR won't be too upset if you put some of your bonus to a Swans membership, that is of course unless MT manages to put the kybosh on it. I reckon there will be a lot of footy fans of all clubs breathing a sigh of relief that $950 is going to drop into their skyrockets so they can once again be onboard in 2009.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • Cheer Squad
                Sydney Swans
                • Apr 2007
                • 1948

                Going down

                Here's the latest update on the membership figures...down in all categories.

                Swans membership numbers way down but coach Roos not concerned | The Daily Telegraph

                So far, we've sold about 16,500 memberships in Sydney, about 6,500 in Melbourne, and 6,000 Homebush superpasses.

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                • pinkemu
                  Silver member, not Gold
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 419

                  So far, we've sold about 16,500 memberships in Sydney, about 6,500 in Melbourne, and 6,000 Homebush superpasses.[/QUOTE]

                  I wonder how much lower that number would have been if the backflip on Gold concourse memberships (changed to Silver) had not occurred.

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                  • DST
                    The voice of reason!
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2705

                    Originally posted by Cheer Squad
                    Here's the latest update on the membership figures...down in all categories.

                    Swans membership numbers way down but coach Roos not concerned | The Daily Telegraph

                    So far, we've sold about 16,500 memberships in Sydney, about 6,500 in Melbourne, and 6,000 Homebush superpasses.
                    If that is down on total figures from last year (and the article seems to confirm that) then that is not overly concerning at this stage.

                    In Melbourne, a large amount of GA memberships are generally sold at the gate at the first or second home game.

                    However, the team will need a good start to bolster the numbers for Sydney memberships and also to jack up the 3 match superpass as well.

                    DST
                    "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                    • Cheer Squad
                      Sydney Swans
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1948

                      Originally posted by pinkemu
                      I wonder how much lower that number would have been if the backflip on Gold concourse memberships (changed to Silver) had not occurred.
                      Makes you wonder, doesn't it? The club would probably be staring at an absolute train wreck.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11339

                        The amazing thing about these marketing gurus is that they all have degrees in this and that yet are oblivious to what is going on outside their windows. Could it be that they are paid a bonus on an outcome, they bulk up the packages on the basis that a given % always renews, so when the board sees the figures they go...."beauty, that'll do us", based on the fact that these people are so called geniuses with big reputations.

                        The board obviously ignored the "blind Freddy" factor regarding the GFC and NSW depression. So when no one buys the "Gold" package they say gee..."didn't see that one coming".
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • Legs Akimbo
                          Grand Poobah
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 2809

                          MEMBERSHIP numbers have plummeted, but Swans coach Paul Roos says his team is under no extra pressure to perform this winter to stay relevant in the crowded Sydney sporting market.
                          My jaw dropped when I read that quote. So far, all we've heard is Roos saying Sydney can't afford to slip down the ladder blah blah blah.

                          Then this pops up out of nowhere...'it doesn't matter' (assuming it is what he actually said)

                          One wonders what this change of heart portends in the mind of our coach.
                          He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11339

                            Sounds like Roosey needs to go to bed with a warm glass of milk.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • Cheer Squad
                              Sydney Swans
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1948

                              "We've had six strong years and for some reason that hasn't converted into memberships," Roos said.

                              Well, if that's the case, why on earth did the club decide to jack up some of the membership fees in the middle of an economic downturn?

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                              • Emerald Hill
                                bloodstainedangels
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 103

                                Originally posted by pinkemu
                                So far, we've sold about 16,500 memberships in Sydney, about 6,500 in Melbourne, and 6,000 Homebush superpasses.
                                I might be a "glass half full" kinda guy but those figures don't sound too bad. Let's face it, we've had worse! The big disappointment is that we've dropped close to 10,000 members in the last few years after 6 continuous years of finals footy! What would we be down to if we hadn't won the silverware in 2005 and nearly followed it up in '06?

                                It certainly makes you wonder about the viability of another team in Sydney.
                                "Notwithstanding the sight of all our miseries, which press upon us and take us by the throat, we have an instinct which we cannot repress, and which lifts us up." - Pascal

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