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  • BSA5
    Senior Player
    • Feb 2008
    • 2522

    #31
    Originally posted by Alison
    Agree Bevo had a shocker today but don't think he should be dropped. Has played ok this season. Midfield did not do our defence any favours. Craig Bolton had a shocker today as well as Hally - should we drop them to?
    Craig Bolton had a shocker?! I don't remember him having a single goal kicked on him.
    Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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    • Triple B
      Formerly 'BBB'
      • Feb 2003
      • 6999

      #32
      Originally posted by BSA5
      Craig Bolton had a shocker?! I don't remember him having a single goal kicked on him.
      I thought he was poor.

      He started on Johnson and was moved after Johnson tore him apart, yet he only kicked 3? behinds. Bevan was actually moved onto him to stop the haemorrhaging. Unfortunately for Bevan, Johnson stayed on fire AND found his kicking boots at the same time.

      I was trying to confirm on the replay that it was actually Bolton, not Bevan, that Stokes wheeled away from playing on in the 3rd quarter for one of his goals, but I am prepared to concede I am wrong on that one.

      Bolton gave away an awful free which led to a goal in the last (?) quarter when he dummied a handball to Kirk and was caught holding the ball.

      All that said, I am NOT calling for his demotion, but agree with the early poster that he had a shocker.
      Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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      • BSA5
        Senior Player
        • Feb 2008
        • 2522

        #33
        Originally posted by Triple B
        I thought he was poor.

        He started on Johnson and was moved after Johnson tore him apart, yet he only kicked 3? behinds. Bevan was actually moved onto him to stop the haemorrhaging. Unfortunately for Bevan, Johnson stayed on fire AND found his kicking boots at the same time.

        I was trying to confirm on the replay that it was actually Bolton, not Bevan, that Stokes wheeled away from playing on in the 3rd quarter for one of his goals, but I am prepared to concede I am wrong on that one.

        Bolton gave away an awful free which led to a goal in the last (?) quarter when he dummied a handball to Kirk and was caught holding the ball.

        All that said, I am NOT calling for his demotion, but agree with the early poster that he had a shocker.
        Johnson started with a bang early, but was helped by fantastic delivery. The move was made FAR too prematurely, and as soon as Bolton was put back on Johnson, not a peep was heard. He did get caught holding the ball. That was one blunder. That does not make his game a shocker. He did not concede a goal to any of his direct opponents while he was actually playing on them. That far outweighs a conceded HTB and possibly being outmanoeuvred at ground level by a guy half his size.
        Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #34
          Originally posted by Triple B
          Just for the sake of us who obviously aren't as savvy, would u please detail the 7 goals he cost us ????
          Don't need to, someone else saw them all too.

          Originally posted by Melbournehammer
          I dont think it would be too hard to find bevan responsible for 8 goals.

          3-4 johnson
          3 stokes
          1 pass to jolly
          1 very slow hand pass from three yards out.

          some of these bolton may not have been able to stop but its not hard to say he was responsible for a number of their goals
          Too often we see an opposition small forward running away to kick a goal unopposed, then when you wonder who is on him, you see Bevan either standing by himself, or running along 5-10 metres behind him.
          Does God believe in Atheists?

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          • Donners
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 1061

            #35
            He's lasted this long against all logic, so goodness knows what it will take for him to be axed.

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            • stellation
              scott names the planets
              • Sep 2003
              • 9718

              #36
              I really did feel sorry for him watching the game yesterday, I can't recall a backman having such a consistent shocker against multiple opponents in a long time. It happens, mistakes in the defensive 50 are always going to be amplified and you'll look like more of a goose.
              I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
              We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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              • top40
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2007
                • 933

                #37
                Please! The guy has one bad game, and he's got to go!

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                • Triple B
                  Formerly 'BBB'
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6999

                  #38
                  Originally posted by goswannie14
                  Don't need to, someone else saw them all too.
                  lol, nice cop out, didn't think you'd have the kahoonas.

                  Do I really need to point out that because the opponent/s he was on kick 7 goals, it doesn't equate to him 'costing us 7 goals'?

                  Do you blame him when he was taken out, perfectly legally I may add, by a beautiful Rooke bump giving Johnson the necessary space to steady and goal? Is that one of the 7 goals he cost us?

                  Do you really blame him when Johnson slipped/ducked/dropped his knees and Bevan collected him high, as 100% of players would have? It was impossible to avoid and that was one time Bevan was absolutely on his hammer and Johnson had nowhere to go. Is that another of the 7 goals that Bevan 'personally' cost us?

                  I'm not suggesting Bevan had anything but a shocker, but to say he personally cost us 7 goals is wrong and to say that he personally costs us 2/3 goals every week is just complete garbage.

                  GS14, you have taken it upon yourself to play the role of the anti-connolly. For every outrageous pro-Bevan post that connolly makes, you now need to post an equally outrageous view of the other extreme.

                  The difference is, everybody but newbies who don't know the connolly history and a couple of 16yo's who aren't worldly enough to understand 'taking the piss' realise that connolly is doing just that, 'taking the piss'.

                  Oh sure, he likes Bevan, but even he would have a chuckle at some of the Bevan dribble he writes in the name of keeping the charade going.
                  Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                  • sharp9
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2508

                    #39
                    The people suggesting "one bad game" need to get a GRIP. he was DESTROYED by the Hawthorn small forwards, then he was slaughtered be Betts and co, then he was DESTROYED by the Richmond small forwards...and that's the games we won!!! I haven't seen the Freo and Brisbane games, but geez he has lost against every single opponent this year (plus the Saints, of course) of the games I have seen. That's at least ten players who have pantsed him. We have to find a more talented player to play on these guys. end of story. Throw in Gilchrist or Laidlaw or ANYBODY with a modicum of speed and talent and see if they show something. Maybe O'Dwyer could be trained...not a great kick...but reasonably quick and not stupid. Same for Smith. Laidlaw IS quick and a thumping kick....PUT HIM IN!!!
                    "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16758

                      #40
                      Originally posted by sharp9
                      The people suggesting "one bad game" need to get a GRIP. he was DESTROYED by the Hawthorn small forwards, then he was slaughtered be Betts and co, then he was DESTROYED by the Richmond small forwards...and that's the games we won!!! I haven't seen the Freo and Brisbane games, but geez he has lost against every single opponent this year (plus the Saints, of course) of the games I have seen. That's at least ten players who have pantsed him. We have to find a more talented player to play on these guys. end of story. Throw in Gilchrist or Laidlaw or ANYBODY with a modicum of speed and talent and see if they show something. Maybe O'Dwyer could be trained...not a great kick...but reasonably quick and not stupid. Same for Smith. Laidlaw IS quick and a thumping kick....PUT HIM IN!!!

                      Maybe that is because Bevan's ideal position isn't defending against small, ultra-quick small forwards. He's being asked to do the role because the only other player in the entire squad capable is injured. It is a glaring hole in the list balance, made worse by the fact that Crouch isn't going to be around for much longer, and is no longer as quick as he used to be.

                      (BTW, he wasn't exactly "pantsed" by Betts. He held him well in the first half of that game - Betts barely touched the ball- before being beaten, but hardly humiliated, in the second half.)

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                      • ROK Lobster
                        RWO Life Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 8658

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Triple B

                        Do you really blame him when Johnson slipped/ducked/dropped his knees and Bevan collected him high, as 100% of players would have?
                        That's a crazy statement. We have plenty who would have missed him altogether.

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          #42
                          We all know Bevo had a shocker, from the openning bounce to the final siren. He's also had some good moments this year. My question is why wasn't he moved away from defence. Yes 'the pine' would of been an alluring option, or why not up forward. There was very little going on up there he could stuff up. IMO, leaving him at the mercy of the Geelong forward line, all day, was poor coaching.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • Bear
                            Best and Fairest
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 1022

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Triple B
                            With an ignorant and possibly offensive statement like that, it wouldn't surprise me if you said you've never seen any game.
                            Well, I can reliably inform you that I have both played in and watched many more games than you.

                            Even the highlight (lowlight) package on the news showed #42 DIRECTLY costing various goals - monstered one on one in a marking contest, chasing his man crumming and running into an open goal (hardly in the picture), slipping over in a marking contest and allowing hs oppononet to run into an open goal uncontested... the list goes on. I reckon 7-8 goals is conservative.
                            Last edited by Bear; 10 May 2009, 10:54 AM.
                            "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                            Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                            • Triple B
                              Formerly 'BBB'
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 6999

                              #44
                              Originally posted by liz
                              (BTW, he wasn't exactly "pantsed" by Betts. He held him well in the first half of that game - Betts barely touched the ball- before being beaten, but hardly humiliated, in the second half.)
                              100% correct Liz.

                              And sharp9, suggesting that Laidlaw, Smith, MOD or Gilchrist would do a better job on the Rioli's, Johnsons, Betts of the world.......you need to get the same GRIP you're suggesting others get.
                              Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                              • Triple B
                                Formerly 'BBB'
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6999

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                                That's a crazy statement. We have plenty who would have missed him altogether.
                                Too true
                                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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