Bevan: How long has he got?

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  • sharp9
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2508

    #61
    Originally posted by Triple B
    100% correct Liz.

    And sharp9, suggesting that Laidlaw, Smith, MOD or Gilchrist would do a better job on the Rioli's, Johnsons, Betts of the world.......you need to get the same GRIP you're suggesting others get.
    Surely you are joking. How the heck would you KNOW if they were any better if they are not tried? bevan has failed appallingly...try someone eles...we're trying to win a premiereship one day!
    "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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    • laughingnome
      Amateur Statsman
      • Jul 2006
      • 1624

      #62
      The pragmatist in me says Bevan is 25 and has played 96 games. He's a toiler, no doubt about it, but after 96 games if he hasn't 'made' it I'm not sure he will. That said, he was 6th last year in the B&F so he's not outside the best 22... yet.

      At least give him another 4 games so we get dibs on his offspring, should they eventuate.
      10100111001 ;-)

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      • hammo
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2003
        • 5554

        #63
        Originally posted by Bloody Hell
        Where is his ideal position? Is it on the field?
        I actually think he should be tried up forward for a while. He's a decent mark and kick at goal but in particular we need some defensive pressure applied up there and that is Bevan's forte.
        "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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        • Hartijon
          On the Rookie List
          • May 2008
          • 1536

          #64
          Wrong position

          I can't remember the last time a half back flanker/back pocket player had 7(or was it 8?) goals kicked by his opponents but I am sure someone will tell me.
          Roos took too long to move C Bolton onto Johnstone ..we had almost lost the game at that point,then Stokes ,his next opponent celebrates the shift with a couple,then the turnovers etc etc.

          My Verdict : The Kid can play but is a more natural forward. Put him next to Mick and we might finally get the crumbing that goes begging so often unless Macca is there.He has courage and can kick straight and his brain fades will suit our forward line..it will be business as usual there.He is simply too slow to take the oppositions small quick and Johnstone was always going to take him apart.What was Roos thinking?

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #65
            Originally posted by Hartijon
            I can't remember the last time a half back flanker/back pocket player had 7(or was it 8?) goals kicked by his opponents but I am sure someone will tell me.
            Roos took too long to move C Bolton onto Johnstone ..we had almost lost the game at that point,then Stokes ,his next opponent celebrates the shift with a couple,then the turnovers etc etc.

            My Verdict : The Kid can play but is a more natural forward. Put him next to Mick and we might finally get the crumbing that goes begging so often unless Macca is there.He has courage and can kick straight and his brain fades will suit our forward line..it will be business as usual there.He is simply too slow to take the oppositions small quick and Johnstone was always going to take him apart.What was Roos thinking?

            Dion Myles..... from memory he had 7 kicked on him by the very ordinary 'pony haired pussy of Carlton'...Pearse.
            Sadly for Dion, his career ended that day.

            Agree with your verdict, he should of been moved forward, nothing was happening up there anyway..IMO it was poor, stubborn coaching.
            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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            • Robbo
              On the Rookie List
              • May 2007
              • 2946

              #66
              Originally posted by hammo
              I actually think he should be tried up forward for a while. He's a decent mark and kick at goal but in particular we need some defensive pressure applied up there and that is Bevan's forte.
              Agreed. I've always thought Bevo has looked better up forward.

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              • goswannie14
                Leadership Group
                • Sep 2005
                • 11166

                #67
                Originally posted by Triple B
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                GS14, you have taken it upon yourself to play the role of the anti-connolly. For every outrageous pro-Bevan post that connolly makes, you now need to post an equally outrageous view of the other extreme.

                The difference is, everybody but newbies who don't know the connolly history and a couple of 16yo's who aren't worldly enough to understand 'taking the piss' realise that connolly is doing just that, 'taking the piss'.

                Oh sure, he likes Bevan, but even he would have a chuckle at some of the Bevan dribble he writes in the name of keeping the charade going.
                I think he is a hopeless defender, and an average at best forward, however, I think his forward play is far superior to his defending. Your comments on my bias appear to be just as biased, as you have failed to recognise what I have said about his forward work.

                Yesterday he had a shocker, but he will never be more than an ordinary footballer, who is lucky enough to be on a list at a time when he is the only option to play his position.
                Does God believe in Atheists?

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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                  GS14 isn't the only one to see the world differently to connolly. I personally think he does Bevan's reputation much more harm than good with his comments.
                  Me???? Or Connolly? I'm a bit confused after reading all of this thread.
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • ROK Lobster
                    RWO Life Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 8658

                    #69
                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    Yesterday he had a shocker, but he will never be more than an ordinary footballer, who is lucky enough to be on a list at a time when he is the only option to play his position.
                    LRT? (Although yesterday he was not too bad - not very good either. He, and his beautoful bouncy hair are just there, week in, week out.)

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11337

                      #70
                      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                      That's a crazy statement. We have plenty who would have missed him altogether.
                      Malceski anyone! Couldn't hold onto Megan gale in a tackle.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11337

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Robbo
                        Agreed. I've always thought Bevo has looked better up forward.
                        Why, does he do his hair differently?
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • Bloody Hell
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 3085

                          #72
                          Originally posted by goswannie14
                          Me???? Or Connolly? I'm a bit confused after reading all of this thread.
                          connolly.

                          Everyone, connolly included, realises Bevan is not as good as he implies. His extreme views on Bevan force people to correct him making it seem Bevan is constantly being put down.

                          Undoubtedly without connolly, Bevans profile would be much smaller on RWO - but it would generally be more positive.

                          Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                          There actually aren't that many Bevo knockers on RWO. It's just that connolly is constantly comparing him to Judd, Abblett etc - which forces people to correct him, making it seem he is being put down often.

                          Saying Bevan isn't Ablett is hardly knocking him.
                          I'm not sure if this makes sense to anyone but me.
                          Last edited by Bloody Hell; 10 May 2009, 10:01 PM.
                          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                          • Bloody Hell
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3085

                            #73
                            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                            Bevo's OK (but only just OK). He had an absolute howler today but should not be judged on that performance. He's a good ordinary player. Will never be anything more, will occasionally be a hell of a lot less.
                            This is the best summation of Bevan in this thread.

                            I remember reading an article (maybe for his 50th Game) where Roos said he has a very fragile ego. Bevan thought he didn't belong in the team and Roos had to tell him - you've played 50 games - you belong!

                            I would suggest the fear is if you drop him you will do alot of damage, that may take a while to get over - rather than seeing any improvement.

                            That said he's nearly played 100 games....Schneider got almost that many before he was deemed a burden. If you are going to cut and run, might as well do it now.
                            The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                            • Bloody Hell
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3085

                              #74
                              Originally posted by hammo
                              I actually think he should be tried up forward for a while. He's a decent mark and kick at goal but in particular we need some defensive pressure applied up there and that is Bevan's forte.
                              Originally posted by ernie koala
                              Dion Myles..... from memory he had 7 kicked on him by the very ordinary 'pony haired pussy of Carlton'...Pearse.
                              Sadly for Dion, his career ended that day.

                              Agree with your verdict, he should of been moved forward, nothing was happening up there anyway..IMO it was poor, stubborn coaching.
                              Originally posted by Robbo
                              Agreed. I've always thought Bevo has looked better up forward.
                              No - way.

                              Our forward line struggles to kick 100 now - all you need is Bevo up there running into Halls space, giving away frees - he is the Scarecrow....if he only had a brain.

                              Hall, O'Loughlin, Meredith, O'Keefe, Vespa, Moore, Grundy - who makes way??? Meredith?...NO!
                              The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                              • BSA5
                                Senior Player
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 2522

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                                No - way.

                                Our forward line struggles to kick 100 now - all you need is Bevo up there running into Halls space, giving away frees - he is the Scarecrow....if he only had a brain.

                                Hall, O'Loughlin, Meredith, O'Keefe, Vespa, Moore, Grundy - who makes way??? Meredith?...NO!
                                O'Keefe to the wing/guts (already saw that against Geelong), Malceski to the back pocket, Bevo forward. If you wanna make more room in the forwardline, Meredith to the wing as well (Meredith's future is ultimately in the midfield anyway).
                                Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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