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  • hammo
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2003
    • 5554

    Originally posted by Triple B
    Certainly not as confident as when I posted, due to the factors I mentioned above, but my mail at the time was certainly correct that the Hawks had agreed to take him, obviously subject to the Swans brokering a suitable deal.

    If Hall is forced into the pre-season draft, I'd imagine the Hawks would be fairly well placed with picks before the Bulldogs, Essendon and Carlton which have been among the clubs 'reported' to have shown interest.
    I understand this but Hall has nominated the Dogs as his preferred club and the Swans have said they'll work to get Hall where he wants to go. We may like to believe otherwise, but Hall nominating the Dogs has weakened our bargaining position.
    "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16744

      If the Blues do decide to ditch Fevola, they'd be in the market for an immediate presence up forward, you'd reckon. Especially if he were relatively cheap in trade terms (ie considerably less than the top 10 pick plus multiple best-22 players that some Blues fans think they might get for trading Fevola.)

      Have to wonder about their salary cap, mind. Especially since any club interested in Fevola would have to view itself as a contender in the near future and would have their own salary cap issues. Fev is contracted and would have to be on a substantial package. To get anything like top trade value for him they might need to keep paying some of his salary.

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      • ugg
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        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15963

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        • hammo
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2003
          • 5554

          Originally posted by liz
          If the Blues do decide to ditch Fevola, they'd be in the market for an immediate presence up forward, you'd reckon. Especially if he were relatively cheap in trade terms (ie considerably less than the top 10 pick plus multiple best-22 players that some Blues fans think they might get for trading Fevola.)

          Have to wonder about their salary cap, mind. Especially since any club interested in Fevola would have to view itself as a contender in the near future and would have their own salary cap issues. Fev is contracted and would have to be on a substantial package. To get anything like top trade value for him they might need to keep paying some of his salary.
          You'd think if Fev suddenly became available the Dogs would quickly drop their interest in Hall.
          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16744

            Originally posted by hammo
            You'd think if Fev suddenly became available the Dogs would quickly drop their interest in Hall.
            Agree that he'd be a better fit for them. But I suspect the difference between what Fevola is currently contracted to Carlton for and what Hall might reasonably ask for next year would be somewhere between $200-400k. Even if it is at the lower end of that range, it could be a challenge for a club that reportedly already has a bit of a challenge to fit under it's salary cap for next year. They'd have to give up a pretty good player as well as draft picks to get Fevola. As we've been told, they think they might be able to snare Hall in the PSD.

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            • Cardinal
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2008
              • 932

              Fev for Hall and 2nd rnd pick

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              • Reggi
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 2718

                Originally posted by liz
                Agree that he'd be a better fit for them. But I suspect the difference between what Fevola is currently contracted to Carlton for and what Hall might reasonably ask for next year would be somewhere between $200-400k. Even if it is at the lower end of that range, it could be a challenge for a club that reportedly already has a bit of a challenge to fit under it's salary cap for next year. They'd have to give up a pretty good player as well as draft picks to get Fevola. As we've been told, they think they might be able to snare Hall in the PSD.
                Can end up funny with draft cap rules. We ended up the unmentionable one from Richmond as the Tigers couldn't fit him under their cap. Not being percieved as as a threat could end up meaning we have another such player in one of these swaps

                You never know

                I don't want Fevola. Players like him are poison to Culture would Roos & Longmire put up with him?

                Other than Dunstall (and Hawthorn had Dermott) I think sides with champion CHFs rather than FFs have tended togo better in Prelims and GFs. Maybe it's the space FFs need

                Lockett Modra Capper Ablett SNR etc can't rememeber many being Premiership players
                Last edited by Reggi; 28 September 2009, 10:13 PM.
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                • Triple B
                  Formerly 'BBB'
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6999

                  Originally posted by Reggi
                  Can end up funny with draft cap rules. We ended up the unmentionable on from Richmond as the Tigers couldn't fit him under their cap.
                  Okay, I'll whisper it - Nick Daffy

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                  • Reggi
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2718

                    Originally posted by Triple B
                    Okay, I'll whisper it - Nick Daffy

                    NOOOOOOOOOO %#%@*O@)@{PP@O#IYU%#U NOOOO #^%@#I^U#^&@!(*&!&(*&@#$^$#(@*#$^%@#$@*O&#$*(U@*(&&@^#(*^&~@%#(~*@#^@*&&$E^@*&^$@*###!!!

                    Finally McVeigh has redeemed a jinxed jumper
                    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                    • laughingnome
                      Amateur Statsman
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 1624

                      Originally posted by Reggi
                      Lockett Modra Capper Ablett SNR etc can't rememeber many being Premiership players
                      I can't name you the middle two but Lockett had Loewe at St Kilda and Ablett Snr had Brownless. Both were very potent duos that could wreck any team.
                      10100111001 ;-)

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                      • Cardinal
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 932

                        Originally posted by Cardinal
                        Fev for Hall and 2nd rnd pick


                        Sometimes what I say has a smattering of plausibility if I do say so myself.

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          Originally posted by Cardinal
                          http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfn...989871751.html

                          Sometimes what I say has a smattering of plausibility if I do say so myself.
                          Written by Martin Blake.


                          According to SEN (not sure of who said it)

                          The deal is already done.
                          Fev for ROK and a draft pick.

                          I certainly hope this is a load of crock.

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                          • Wardy
                            The old Boiler!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 6676

                            Originally posted by ScottH
                            Written by Martin Blake.


                            According to SEN (not sure of who said it)

                            The deal is already done.
                            Fev for ROK and a draft pick.

                            I certainly hope this is a load of crock.
                            Perhaps its a typo? - Fev for ROC (Ryan O'Connor!)
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                            • Cardinal
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 932

                              Originally posted by Wardy
                              Perhaps its a typo? - Fev for ROC (Ryan O'Connor!)
                              I thought of this option too but surely if we were to take on all of Fev's salary (without the benfit of him on the veteran's list) we could get away with a straight swap. Then again he is the Coleman medalist.


                              And when I say plausibility I mean like in a hypothetical sense of the meaning of logic.

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                Originally posted by ScottH
                                Written by Martin Blake.


                                According to SEN (not sure of who said it)

                                The deal is already done.
                                Fev for ROK and a draft pick.

                                I certainly hope this is a load of crock.
                                No freakin way.
                                That's NOT going to happen.
                                ROK's not going anywhere.
                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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