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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11339

    Originally posted by crackedactor
    Partly Agree- Dean is playing serviceable but his tackling is his weak point. I often see his tackles get broken. Xav has a beautiful kicking action and a good pair of hands. However his tank is a problem and he struggles to see out a full game. Maybe its something they can work on!!
    Really! I haven't noticed that X doesn't see out a game. I thought he looked strong in the last Q. Only saw the game on the telly so may have looked different live.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      I heard Tim Watson say that Richmond should give up their 1st pick (6) for Prestia. Most commentators rate Mitchell higher than Prestia, which they should. So on that basis Mitchell should be worth pick 4.

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      • graemed
        Swans2win
        • Jan 2003
        • 410

        The speculation on the matter of Mitchell's future is distracting because people may begin to believe that he is unhappy or greedy or egotistical or...

        If you wish to see how he is perceived by his teammates then watch Ted Richards interviewing his brother who is Mitchell's housemate. It has a question from Mitchell about X Richard's pre-game ritual. The response from X is very enlightening as to the demeanour in the house and the relationship between the co-tenants.

        I believe it is both refreshing and reassuring.

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        • KTigers
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2012
          • 2499

          I'm sure there is some research somewhere and it'd be interesting to find it, but I've often wondered how some clubs are patently better than others at creating really good footballers out of guys they find in the lower rungs of the draft and even in local footy. Obviously teams like us and Hawthorn are pretty good at this, because they are never going to be handed a high draft pick finishing in the top four every year. Maybe the likes of us and Hawthorn are good at it because they have to be. Whereas the Richmonds of the comp think they don't have to work as hard at creating a really good player because they are going to handed a number six draft pick, and that guy is halfway to being good already. Maybe that is a bit harsh, but there are a bunch of teams down the bottom of the ladder where they've been for awhile, they keep getting these high draft picks but it doesn't seem to make much difference to their ladder position. Maybe it's just another argument for environment over genetics.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            I think Tom wants to stay at the Swans, but the club is low-balling a new contract offer to see what we can get for him. If we can get a good deal, we'll trade him, otherwise we'll up the offer enough for him to stay. We may wait to see what Prestia goes for to set the bar on Mitchell.

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            • Aaron
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2009
              • 805

              Originally posted by dimelb
              I haven't checked the figures, but my impression is that Xav is currently a more reliable kick than Gunston, as well as being bigger and as fast if not faster. Changing ends means he has quickly become a very valuable asset.
              Below is the average statistics per Game this season so far:
              Kicks|Handballs|Marks|Tackles|Goals|Behinds|Time On Ground %|AFL Fantasy
              Jack Gunston 11.3 | 5.1 |6.5 |3.1 |2.3 | 1.6 |91.8 |89.9
              Xavier Richards 7.5 | 4.3 |5.3 |3 |2.3 | 0.5 |80.6 |71.5
              The two are very close. However, Gunston has played 20 games and X just 4. Still too early to tell if X can be as consistent as Gunston.

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                Originally posted by Aaron
                Below is the average statistics per Game this season so far:
                Kicks|Handballs|Marks|Tackles|Goals|Behinds|Time On Ground %|AFL Fantasy
                Jack Gunston 11.3 | 5.1 |6.5 |3.1 |2.3 | 1.6 |91.8 |89.9
                Xavier Richards 7.5 | 4.3 |5.3 |3 |2.3 | 0.5 |80.6 |71.5
                The two are very close. However, Gunston has played 20 games and X just 4. Still too early to tell if X can be as consistent as Gunston.
                Aaron, thank you for digging these figures up - as you say, they are surprisingly close, which I think reflects very well on Xav. Gunston is quite a comparison for a much less experienced player.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  If Mitchell does go, it will make it easier to slot Robinson back in

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                  • Cosmic Wizard
                    recruit me pretty please!
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 620

                    Originally posted by Aaron
                    Below is the average statistics per Game this season so far:
                    Kicks|Handballs|Marks|Tackles|Goals|Behinds|Time On Ground %|AFL Fantasy
                    Jack Gunston 11.3 | 5.1 |6.5 |3.1 |2.3 | 1.6 |91.8 |89.9
                    Xavier Richards 7.5 | 4.3 |5.3 |3 |2.3 | 0.5 |80.6 |71.5
                    The two are very close. However, Gunston has played 20 games and X just 4. Still too early to tell if X can be as consistent as Gunston.
                    Jack Gunston : Height 193 : Weight 85kg : Games 127
                    X Richards : Height 195 : Weight 91kg : Games 6

                    From Afl Stats and the Clubs App
                    doof-doof

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                    • azzzr
                      Pushing for Selection
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 52

                      Originally posted by Aaron
                      Below is the average statistics per Game this season so far:
                      Kicks|Handballs|Marks|Tackles|Goals|Behinds|Time On Ground %|AFL Fantasy
                      Jack Gunston 11.3 | 5.1 |6.5 |3.1 |2.3 | 1.6 |91.8 |89.9
                      Xavier Richards 7.5 | 4.3 |5.3 |3 |2.3 | 0.5 |80.6 |71.5
                      The two are very close. However, Gunston has played 20 games and X just 4. Still too early to tell if X can be as consistent as Gunston.
                      It's not really close. His played in a couple of blowouts now like freo, port and saints - he is not comparable at the moment but in time he might get there

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                      • 111431
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 698

                        Originally posted by azzzr
                        It's not really close. His played in a couple of blowouts now like freo, port and saints - he is not comparable at the moment but in time he might get there
                        Going well but let's see how he is after 120 games and a couple of premierships

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                        • Steve
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 676

                          Mitchell wants to remain a Swan

                          Doesn't really shed any new light, but I think supports the argument that a slightly improved offer would get it done.

                          Not sure where the X Richards vs Gunston comparison came from - Gunston is worth 20+ XR's.

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                          • azzzr
                            Pushing for Selection
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 52

                            Originally posted by Steve
                            Mitchell wants to remain a Swan

                            Doesn't really shed any new light, but I think supports the argument that a slightly improved offer would get it done.

                            Not sure where the X Richards vs Gunston comparison came from - Gunston is worth 20+ XR's.
                            Not which I don't trust all the great great great journos of the heraldsun, but what are we expecting Tom to say 2 weeks out from the finals " I can't wait to leave "

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                            • Steve
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 676

                              Originally posted by azzzr
                              Not which I don't trust all the great great great journos of the heraldsun, but what are we expecting Tom to say 2 weeks out from the finals " I can't wait to leave "
                              I think the point is you wouldn't say anything if you had definitely decided to leave.

                              I don't recall Buddy, Ablett, Dangerfield et al being quoted as saying "yeah definitely" they wanted to stay late in the year before they left.

                              Doesn't guarantee anything, but would be bizarre to have made up your mind to leave and be quoted that way now.

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                              • CureTheSane
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 5032

                                Sounds to me like the Swans are prepared to make a trade, and he perhaps feels like he has distanced himself a bit.
                                May be making the hardball a little softer, and looking to stay where he's happy.
                                Could be a bit daunting making a big move.
                                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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