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Simon Phillips to portI See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!Comment
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I don't understand the actions of Port and North in trading for these players. Presumably GC is only pre-listing them once it knows another club is interested in them, rather than because it wants them on their own list. If Port really want Phillips, would they really need to use pick 35 to draft him? Surely a later pick would secure him (unless they know there are several clubs keen). Similarly with North and the player they have taken for a mid-30s pick.
Am I missing something here?Comment
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"You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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The details are wrong, Port get Phillips and 35 (which was originally NM's pick which they traded to GC for Cam Richardson) in exchange for the Krakouer compo pick. Basically for nothing, similar to Freo getting Faulks and Mzungu for very little. It seems only NM had to pay a premium for Richardson, but that was reportedly because GC wanted to keep him.
GC are stockpiling compo picks (they now have the Krakouer, Fraser and one of Geelong's comp picks) for the futureComment
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No you're exactly right. They exploited a rule that all Clubs agreed to however no one saw them trading those players off immediately. GC pre-lists a player another Club wants then snatches the pick from them. Have a look at the new draft list and the compensation draft picks. Suns were the biggest winners in trade week.Last edited by Bas; 11 October 2010, 01:10 PM.In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.Comment
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The compensation pick can be used in the next 5 drafts. Most at the end of the first round except for Fraser who was end of third round.
In future years the compensation draft picks are of much higher value (after GWS) because they are at the end of Round 1.
So GC then went out to get all of those compensation draft picks back to be used in the future drafts. They got three picks for nothing. A mid first round, a late first round and second round draft pick.In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.Comment
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With a plethora of young players, GC don't need the picks this year or next year but will use them from 2012 to 2014 when they will be pick 9, pick 19 and pick 39, and they got these extra picks just for doing paperwork. Yes, GC are the really big winners from Trade Week. Monster club backed by GC wealth in the making!
Appreciate a link being posted whenever the AFL gets around to issuing the new National Draft order. Time now to cast our eyes over potential pick 21sLast edited by 707; 11 October 2010, 01:42 PM.Comment
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Assuming no compensation picks are cashed in this year:
Adelaide Crows: 14, 61, 84, 101, 118, 135
Brisbane Lions: 5, 25, 27, 31, 65, 82, 99, 116, 133
Carlton: 18, 33, 41, 67, 70, 87, 104, 121, 138
Collingwood: 44, 45, 60, 77, 78, 94, 95, 111, 128, 145
Essendon: 8, 30, 47, 64, 81, 98, 115, 132
Fremantle: 20, 43, 55, 72, 89, 106, 123, 140
Geelong: 15, 23, 36, 53, 57, 58, 75, 92, 109, 126, 143
Gold Coast Suns: 1, 2 ,3, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 35, 38, 48, 112, 129.
Hawthorn: 19, 37, 54, 66, 88, 105, 122, 139
Melbourne Demons: 12, 32, 49, 52, 83, 100, 117, 134
North Melbourne: 17, 71, 69, 103, 120, 137
Port Adelaide: 16, 34, 35, 51, 68, 85, 102, 119, 136
Richmond: 6, 29, 46, 50, 63, 80, 97, 114, 131
St Kilda: 24, 42, 59, 76, 93, 110, 127, 144
Sydney Swans: 21, 39, 56, 90, 107, 124, 141
West Coast: 4, 26, 28, 62, 79, 86, 96, 113, 130,
Western Bulldogs: 22 (Wallis), 40 (Liberatore), 73, 74, 91, 108, 125, 142
Compensation Picks traded
Nathan Krakouer compo pick = Gold Coast
Jared Brennan compo pick = Gold Coast
Gary Ablett (middle of round 1) compo pick = Gold Coast
Jarrod Harbrow compo pick = Brisbane Lions
Nathan Bock compo pick = Richmond
Campbell Brown compo pick = North Melbourne
Josh Fraser compo pick = West Coast
Compensation Picks not traded
Michael Rischitelli compo pick = Brisbane
Gary Ablett (end of round 1) compo pick = GeelongLast edited by ugg; 11 October 2010, 01:44 PM.Comment
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Just stole this from another forum. The corresponding picks that GC have in the 05 draft:
2005 ND
1 - Marc Murphy
2 - Dale Thomas
3 - Xavier Ellis
7 - Patrick Ryder
9 - Mitch Clark
10 - Marcus Drum
11 - Shaun Higgins
13 - Shannon Hurn
Pretty scary in 5 years time!Comment
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Those comp picks got bandied around like anything, but I wonder if by the 2012 draft their value starts to look better. "End of first round" only means pick 26 for the next two drafts before winding in to 19.
A nice blog showing the revised draft order and who traded what pick to whom can be found here.Last edited by laughingnome; 11 October 2010, 01:59 PM.10100111001 ;-)Comment
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