Changes for the Suns

[mcs]

Get Nick Davis as Goal Kicking Coach. I was told by someone that watches training that there is very little in the way of specialist Goal Kicking training. The other thing I was told was that specialised skills drills were overrided by fitness drills & therefore were either not completed or completely deleted. I haven't been along to look at the training sessions but I am of the opinion we need skills sessions & our forwards & mids need specialised goal kicking practice. Appasrently most clubs don't do concentrated goal practice. But funnily, the Hawks, Cats & Pies do! Funny about that.

If that is correct, then it is utterly ridiculous from the club and in my opinion shows very bad judgement from people that should know better. Our skills have been disgraceful all year, and our kicking for goal has cost us games we should have won, and a few others have been close affairs when we should have won comfortably. Every team suffers from the yips at time, but as a team that doesn't create a lot of chances we can not afford to do so and we should be doing everything to avoid it happening. Especially considering the way you win games is by getting points on the board, and the best way to do that is by kicking goals. Sometimes I wonder if we focus too much on stopping the other team scoring than making sure we know how to score heavily and take our chances when they come.

[ernie koala]

What a turgid performance...
Changes :
Out - Everitt -Why he was again selected as sub...and on a wet night ???? Mind boggling
Kennelly - Woeful, both his form and talking himself up for a new contract in the papers. After years of "I want to go home" and screwing us by leaving in preseason. Now we have to suffer him looking for his retirement fund.
Bevan - He's just not good enough. We can only hope GWS give us something for him.
White - Like Bevo, he's just not good enough, body work is non existent. I thought he might make it as a defender, I now doubt that.
Jetta - Just doesn't have the body or desire for a hard fought contest, particually in the wet. Maybe a couple more preseasons will give him the confidence to attact the ball harder and take the lazy stuff out of his game.

In - Mumford
Jack
TDL
Spranger
Johnston

[stellation]

I found it hard to tell watching the game on tele, but for those calling for White's head did he actually spend a lot of time in the forward line? I haven't looked at stats (so he probably only got 1 touch!) but I thought his around the ground work in the ruck was relatively involved and okay for a second week in a row.

[ernie koala]

I found it hard to tell watching the game on tele, but for those calling for White's head did he actually spend a lot of time in the forward line? I haven't looked at stats (so he probably only got 1 touch!) but I thought his around the ground work in the ruck was relatively involved and okay for a second week in a row.

Yeah, he did play in the ruck a fair bit and he did get the ball moving forward on occasion. But he didn't take one contested mark all night (that I can remember), and for a guy of his size and skill, he should be far more involved and dominant against a team like Adelaide.

[Captain]

I will spew if TDL doesn't get a game.

[Yuri H]

If that is correct, then it is utterly ridiculous from the club and in my opinion shows very bad judgement from people that should know better. Our skills have been disgraceful all year, and our kicking for goal has cost us games we should have won, and a few others have been close affairs when we should have won comfortably.

Agreed completely.

[chalbilto]

Get Nick Davis as Goal Kicking Coach. I was told by someone that watches training that there is very little in the way of specialist Goal Kicking training. The other thing I was told was that specialised skills drills were overrided by fitness drills & therefore were either not completed or completely deleted. I haven't been along to look at the training sessions but I am of the opinion we need skills sessions & our forwards & mids need specialised goal kicking practice. Appasrently most clubs don't do concentrated goal practice. But funnily, the Hawks, Cats & Pies do! Funny about that.

Just to re-inforce the lack of goals so far this season in the Swans matches they have kicked 159 goals and have had 180 behinds which equates to a 46.90% average for goals. Simply not good enough. It's time that Horse puts his foot down and over rules the fitness staff and concentrate on goal and general kicking skills. Let good old fashioned common sense rule over the scientific fitness gurus for the players are not machines and can't be programed like robots.

[Donners]

I am so disappointed tonight...I need to move on to next week.

IN: Jack, TDL, Malceski, Smith, Mumford
OUT: Bird (Inj), Everitt, Bevan, White, McGlynn

McGlynn certainly shouldn't go - he may be down on form, but he's still better than most.
Bevan was actually decent for a change.

Swap them for Kennelly and Jetta, and I'd agree.

[Triple B]

I don't agree at all with the drop Jetta calls.

I thought his first half tonight was the best half of footy he's played all year. He certainly tapered off in the second half, but overall I thought he was much improved and look forward to seeing him on a dry track again.

[stellation]

Yeah, he did play in the ruck a fair bit and he did get the ball moving forward on occasion. But he didn't take one contested mark all night (that I can remember), and for a guy of his size and skill, he should be far more involved and dominant against a team like Adelaide.

You're right, he didn't take a contested mark at all- but he wasn't the lone ranger in that regard, starting to go over the stats it looks like only 14 of the 44 players involved last night took a contested mark (20 taken overall, 3 players took multiple marks). I know it was against a poor team, but I'm sure I recall the commentators mentioning at some point that Rutten was on Goodes when he went forward unless White went into the forward line as well, in which case Rutten was taking White instead of Goodes; so yes against a poor team, but if he was drawing Rutten when in the forward line he wasn't exactly on a poor opponent in his time there.

Adelaide ran with two legit sized ruckmen and the conditions would have made it pretty difficult as an undersized ruckman at any stoppage- if you're trying to hold position and the ground is soggy and giving way it goes to all strength to hold off your opponent, if both opposition ruckmen have 2-3 inches on you that's not easy and you'll tire pretty quickly.

[stellation]

I don't agree at all with the drop Jetta calls.

I thought his first half tonight was the best half of footy he's played all year. He certainly tapered off in the second half, but overall I thought he was much improved and look forward to seeing him on a dry track again.

I have to agree, I see no real reason to drop him after that effort. I thought he looked great in the first half.

[ugg]

I found it hard to tell watching the game on tele, but for those calling for White's head did he actually spend a lot of time in the forward line? I haven't looked at stats (so he probably only got 1 touch!) but I thought his around the ground work in the ruck was relatively involved and okay for a second week in a row.

I agree with you, his role last night was as the backup ruckman. With Mummy coming back and Seaby holding his own for a few weeks now there's no spot for Jesse.

[JudesaGun]

Ins:
Jack
Mumford
TDL
Malceski
Smith

Outs:
Parker
Everitt
Bird (inj)
White
LRT

[stellation]

I agree with you, his role last night was as the backup ruckman. With Mummy coming back and Seaby holding his own for a few weeks now there's no spot for Jesse.

Yep, I'd agree with that- I think he's been fine as a backup ruckman the last couple of weeks but Mummy/Seaby is the ruck combo to go with. I got the impression that some folks may have thought Jesse being dropped would open up a permanent forward spot for someone to come into.

[Brettb]

Ins:
Jack
Mumford
TDL
Malceski
Smith

Outs:
Parker
Everitt
Bird (inj)
White
LRT

I thought Parker was Ok, a little harsh to drop him in my opinion, Bevan on the other hand offers very little and should be dropped.