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  • Triple B
    Formerly 'BBB'
    • Feb 2003
    • 6999

    If he appeals, he loses the early plea deduction obviously, but surely he still gets the reduction for his record, therefore he doesn't risk 2 weeks if unsuccessful.

    That's my understanding anyway...
    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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    • BillyRayCypress
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2012
      • 1379

      Johnson rubbed out for Hannebery bump
      Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16733

        Originally posted by jono2707
        I think its fair enough that Heath gets a week for his silly action. I'm also ok with Chappy's charge, and a little surprised that Stevie J was charged but I certainly thinks he deserves to be suspended for that. I don't think we should fight Heath's charge as it was pretty obvious and I would rather we don't take the risk of a further week - we do have at least 2 finals games in this campaign, hopefully more...

        Therefore Reid in for Tommy, and LRT to go back into Heath's role, with Armstrong or Malceski to fight it out for sub...
        Pretty much agree. The force of Reg's hit was borderline as to whether it was worthy of suspension but it was silly and undisciplined.

        I am also surprised that Johnson was cited but don't disagree with it. The Cats have shown late this season that they are still a very good team but they are also a slightly spiteful team. McGlynn was clearly being targeted with physical attention off the ball (and the commentary of both Kirk and Harley supported the fact that this was not incidental). Johnson's off-the-ball hit on Hanners was another example of unnecessary roughing up of an opponent, even though he didn't get him high and it wasn't that hard of a knock.

        Edit: I've just seen the MRP assessment of the Johnson action and noticed they did assess there was high contact. Not sure how they can grade it as reckless rather than intentional, given it was off the ball. I thought all off the ball incidents were, prima facie, intentional nowadays.

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        • ernie koala
          Senior Player
          • May 2007
          • 3251

          Will be interesting to see who comes in for Grundy.

          If LRT goes back, then one would think Hoese will want another forward.

          Maybe Malceski goes out......Everitt in as sub...... Unlikely

          So probably little change:

          Out: Walsh, Grundy,

          In : Reid, Smith

          Armstrong (sub)
          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            I thought Chappy's hit was the worst of the lot. Putting aside the points system, I would have given Chappy a week and the other 2 reprimands. These are the sort of incidents where a 50 meter penalty should apply instead of a report. To think that Grundy was assessed for that love tap as a 2 game suspension before deductions is ridiculous.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8149

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              I thought Chappy's hit was the worst of the lot. Putting aside the points system, I would have given Chappy a week and the other 2 reprimands. These are the sort of incidents where a 50 meter penalty should apply instead of a report. To think that Grundy was assessed for that love tap as a 2 game suspension before deductions is ridiculous.
              +1 for this. I also thought Chapman's was the worst of the lot. Can't believe Grundy's was 'worthy' of 2 weeks before deductions though.... stupid yes, but 2 weeks - PLEASE
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9718

                I don't think Chapman aimed for the chin, I do think Grundy did.
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  Originally posted by stellation
                  I don't think Chapman aimed for the chin, I do think Grundy did.
                  I agree.
                  Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                  • Go Swannies
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5697

                    Originally posted by stellation
                    I don't think Chapman aimed for the chin, I do think Grundy did.
                    That'd make him one of the few Swans to hit a forward target in weeks.

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                    • Dirtyburt
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 853

                      Have to appeal way too harsh, but stupid act

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                      • stellation
                        scott names the planets
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 9718

                        Originally posted by Go Swannies
                        That'd make him one of the few Swans to hit a forward target in weeks.


                        Improved his disposal efficiency!
                        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                        • BillyRayCypress
                          On the Rookie List
                          • May 2012
                          • 1379

                          Originally posted by Wardy
                          What about Stevie j's half chicken wing attempt on Hanners - behind here so did Chappy get off?
                          Now here's a chicken wing attempt

                          Man eats record 191 wings in 12 minutes
                          Nothing like a good light bulb moment.

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            I have a suspicion that the MRP fiddled with the system so that both Sydney and Geelong would lose one player for one week, so they showed that they took some action without seeming unfair to one side or the other. I think they took all the incidents together and decided to give each team a one week suspension, then worked out the details of the charges. If Johnson got off, either Chappy would have gotten a week or they would have let the Grundy one go as well. The Johnson and Grundy incidents were pretty similar in that they were fairly low impact off the ball incidents. Chappy got lucky, as the Geelong crowd would had fits if both got suspended before the finals.

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              Originally posted by Dirtyburt
                              Have to appeal way too harsh, but stupid act
                              On what grounds...

                              It was deemed...
                              intentional - can't dispute that,

                              low impact - can't dispute that,

                              high contact- can't dispute that
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11328

                                Originally posted by liz
                                Pretty much agree. The force of Reg's hit was borderline as to whether it was worthy of suspension but it was silly and undisciplined.

                                I am also surprised that Johnson was cited but don't disagree with it. The Cats have shown late this season that they are still a very good team but they are also a slightly spiteful team. McGlynn was clearly being targeted with physical attention off the ball (and the commentary of both Kirk and Harley supported the fact that this was not incidental). Johnson's off-the-ball hit on Hanners was another example of unnecessary roughing up of an opponent, even though he didn't get him high and it wasn't that hard of a knock.

                                Edit: I've just seen the MRP assessment of the Johnson action and noticed they did assess there was high contact. Not sure how they can grade it as reckless rather than intentional, given it was off the ball. I thought all off the ball incidents were, prima facie, intentional nowadays.
                                Conca from Richmond got 4 weeks early in the season for a similar off the ball incident to that of Johnson. To say they squibbed it on the eve of the finals on the Chapman one is a gross understatement. On Grundy...what a dill. He does one of his woeful kicking turnovers but instead of getting back to cover his mistake he gets sucked in. Should cop it sweet simply on the grounds of highly undisciplined play.

                                What Grundy's suspension does do is to take away some flexibility at selection. If they wanted to revert to LRT as the backup ruckman, and even leave out Pyke to include another small forward and some mobility up forward, thats out the window because LRT is the obvious one to go to the backline to preserve the backline structure.
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