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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    Originally posted by barry
    I think Tippett could have had a much better career at the swans if Buddy didnt come a year later.

    We we so desperate for a gun forward after 2012, that we ended up getting 2, and consequently never quite got the balance right since.
    We wouldn't have traded in Tippett if we already had Buddy but they landed in that order so that's what we now have.

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    • KTigers
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2012
      • 2499

      Very few of these 200cm plus guys seem to be able to string together a lot of games without getting
      injured fairly regularly. I noticed Sandilands is out yet again. It just seems to be par for the course with them.
      It may be that these huge bodies are not really meant for playing footy week in, week out.
      I'd rather have Tippo out there than not. He does always have a go.

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      • 0918330512
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1654

        Originally posted by barry
        I think Tippett could have had a much better career at the swans if Buddy didnt come a year later.

        We we so desperate for a gun forward after 2012, that we ended up getting 2, and consequently never quite got the balance right since.
        Agree but it's sliding doors. Tippett would have been a stay at home key forward. Mummy would probably be our number 1 ruckman. No Sinclair. No Derickx.

        But I reckon Tipp takes some of the heat of Bud allowing Bud to do his natural thing. Pity Tip is made of soggy tissue paper

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16758

          Tippett has played well for us when he's been uninjured, and with he AND Buddy in the side, we've been effective more often than not. The debate on whether the salary cap would have been better used on other players had we known Buddy was on his way is a different discussion. But I don't think Buddy's arrival can be blamed for the variety of injuries Tippett has sustained, which are the main reason why he's not delivered the value we hoped he would.

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          • KTigers
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2012
            • 2499

            I think when you have two highly paid big bodied forwards in the same team the expectation is
            they'll combine for 6 or 7 goals a week, but this rarely comes to fruition. Maybe Patton & Cameron
            for GWS are doing this at the moment, but generally it's very uncommon. Tippo's issue is his
            body, which unfortunately for him is not getting any younger.

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            • crackedactor
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2012
              • 919

              Originally posted by KTigers
              I think when you have two highly paid big bodied forwards in the same team the expectation is
              they'll combine for 6 or 7 goals a week, but this rarely comes to fruition. Maybe Patton & Cameron
              for GWS are doing this at the moment, but generally it's very uncommon. Tippo's issue is his
              body, which unfortunately for him is not getting any younger.
              Agree! two big body forwards rarely work. Many teams are having smaller forward lines and are now having success i.e Richmond. I will be surprised if Tippett ever plays another game for the Swans. I am hoping that if we can trade Tippett, we may be able to hold onto Reid. But according to a workmate fanatical Magpie Supporter, Collingwood are very confident of picking up Sam Reid next year.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16758

                Originally posted by crackedactor
                Agree! two big body forwards rarely work. Many teams are having smaller forward lines and are now having success i.e Richmond. I will be surprised if Tippett ever plays another game for the Swans. I am hoping that if we can trade Tippett, we may be able to hold onto Reid. But according to a workmate fanatical Magpie Supporter, Collingwood are very confident of picking up Sam Reid next year.
                I don't think Richmond's forward line is particularly effective, not on a consistent basis. Geelong are crying out for a second, effective tall target to help out Hawkins. And there are plenty of clubs for which a multi-pronged tall forward line works - Essendon (which has one of the most efficient forward lines, measured by the conversion of forward 50 entries into shots on goal), Giants, Adelaide.

                Our own forward line looks far more potent when Reid is playing well than when Buddy has to do things on his own.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  After last week will the Swans ever want to play Buddy, Tippo, Reid and Naismith in same side again?

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    Originally posted by KTigers
                    I think when you have two highly paid big bodied forwards in the same team the expectation is
                    they'll combine for 6 or 7 goals a week, but this rarely comes to fruition. Maybe Patton & Cameron
                    for GWS are doing this at the moment, but generally it's very uncommon. Tippo's issue is his
                    body, which unfortunately for him is not getting any younger.
                    My opinion is the GWS forward line is not functioning very well, but saying that Cameron is much more mobile than Tippet and they have the luxury of two classy small forward crumbers in Johnson and Green. Still, having tall forwards seems to make the rest of the team want to bomb it it, which is a flawed gameplan no matter how good your talls are.

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                    • KTigers
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2499

                      If you compare Franklin (40-37) with Cameron (40-20) and Reid (21-10) with Patton (26-8), Patton has played
                      12 games, the rest all 14 games, then there isn't a huge amount in it. GWS are only marginally ahead. I think the
                      bombing has a lot to do with the amount of pressure on the midfielders. All of these guys will lead up, and Reid and
                      Patton (who are both great marks) will regularly drop back into defence to help out. I know Tippo can ruck, and he
                      has a unique haircut but he lacks the versatility of these other four.


                      Originally posted by barry
                      My opinion is the GWS forward line is not functioning very well, but saying that Cameron is much more mobile than Tippet and they have the luxury of two classy small forward crumbers in Johnson and Green. Still, having tall forwards seems to make the rest of the team want to bomb it it, which is a flawed gameplan no matter how good your talls are.

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                      • AB Swannie
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 1579

                        Originally posted by KTigers
                        If you compare Franklin (40-37) with Cameron (40-20) and Reid (21-10) with Patton (26-8), Patton has played
                        12 games, the rest all 14 games, then there isn't a huge amount in it. GWS are only marginally ahead. I think the
                        bombing has a lot to do with the amount of pressure on the midfielders. All of these guys will lead up, and Reid and
                        Patton (who are both great marks) will regularly drop back into defence to help out. I know Tippo can ruck, and he
                        has a unique haircut but he lacks the versatility of these other four.
                        The thing that jumped out at me from this post is that Reid has only 10 behinds. Looking at 21-10, you'd think he was a reliable shot at goal but I could swear my heart rate goes over 200 every time he has a kick from directly in front.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          Assuming Sam can stay on the park he is actually on track to have his best year in front of goal for us.
                          His career accuracy rate in front of goal is about 57%, which is not fabulous. This year he is just under
                          70% so far. There is no doubt he is one of the best one grab marks in the comp and I like that he puts in,
                          and can be a very useful defender as well. I hope he stays, even though he is still relatively young he
                          has been around for so long the team doesn't really look right without him.

                          Originally posted by AB Swannie
                          The thing that jumped out at me from this post is that Reid has only 10 behinds. Looking at 21-10, you'd think he was a reliable shot at goal but I could swear my heart rate goes over 200 every time he has a kick from directly in front.

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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            Originally posted by AB Swannie
                            The thing that jumped out at me from this post is that Reid has only 10 behinds. Looking at 21-10, you'd think he was a reliable shot at goal but I could swear my heart rate goes over 200 every time he has a kick from directly in front.
                            He kicks them on the full too which isn't included in that stat [emoji6] .

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                            • 0918330512
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1654

                              Hawks might be looking for a bigman to replace Vickery. Trade Tippett for Tom Mitchell

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                              • Club 80
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 149

                                Originally posted by 09183305
                                Hawks might be looking for a bigman to replace Vickery. Trade Tippett for Tom Mitchell
                                Vickery has been arrested for extortion. Fails "no dickhead policy".

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