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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    We wont be offering tippet the kind of money GC can with a front loaded contract. But we can offer him the best chance at a flag, that is something money cant buy. We are the only top 5 team, that deserately need a forward like him.

    The problem with losing grundy, is it means our two key position defenders (ted and lrt) will be both on the wrong side of 28

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    • Wardy
      The old Boiler!
      • Sep 2003
      • 6676

      I'm just going to put my faith into those who's job it is to recruit the people they think will be beneficial to our group. I'm pretty sure they know what they are doing. What ever will be will.
      I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
      Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
      AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16764

        Originally posted by Matty10
        No-one knows for sure if Grundy has really been mentioned in trade talks, but all the reasons you listed above are the reasons that you would offer him as a trade (you need to offer something good in order to get something good).
        Plus the fact that a mature key defender would be most attractive to the Crows, given they have lost Bock and Davis in the last couple of years, and Rutten probably doesn't have much longer to go.

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        • SydAFLFan
          On the Rookie List
          • Aug 2010
          • 40

          Originally posted by liz
          Plus the fact that a mature key defender would be most attractive to the Crows, given they have lost Bock and Davis in the last couple of years, and Rutten probably doesn't have much longer to go.
          One thing to remember is that Tippett has told the Crows he is leaving and as The Advertiser's Michelangelo Rucci wrote, "IF Tippett does not sanction the trade, he can nominate for the pre-season draft on December 11. Greater Western Sydney has the first pick, but cannot claim Tippett because it already has poached an uncontracted Crow Phil Davis last year. Gold Coast has the second pick."

          Therefor, if Adelaide play hardball the Crows risk ending up with nothing as Tippett would nominate for the draft and end up in his home state anyhow (assuming Gold Coast select him). Sydney might be able to use this to its advantage by offering a lesser deal (ie a lowly draft pick) that is not the normal straight forward like-for-like trade but better than if Tippett nominates for the pre-season draft.

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          • Triple B
            Formerly 'BBB'
            • Feb 2003
            • 6999

            Originally posted by SydAFLFan
            One thing to remember is that Tippett has told the Crows he is leaving and as The Advertiser's Michelangelo Rucci wrotes, "IF Tippett does not sanction the trade, he can nominate for the pre-season draft on December 11. Greater Western Sydney has the first pick, but cannot claim Tippett because it already has poached an uncontracted Crow Phil Davis last year. Gold Coast has the second pick."
            Is that right? I have serious doubts.

            They cannot claim more than 1 player per club via the concession, but once the player goes in the draft, surely GWS as pick 1 can claim him. If Rucci is right, then GWS cannot claim any Adelaide, Melbourne, Western Bulldog, Fremantle or Port Adelaide players. That cannot be right.
            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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            • SydAFLFan
              On the Rookie List
              • Aug 2010
              • 40

              Originally posted by Triple B
              Is that right? I have serious doubts.

              They cannot claim more than 1 player per club via the concession, but once the player goes in the draft, surely GWS as pick 1 can claim him. If Rucci is right, then GWS cannot claim any Adelaide, Melbourne, Western Bulldog, Fremantle or Port Adelaide players. That cannot be right.
              Looks like it might be true as this is what the AFL said in August 2011,

              GWS Giants to have capacity to sign up to 16 uncontracted players. Maximum of one player from other AFL clubs, unless a club agrees to trade more than one player to GWS Giants. If the club does not sign 16 uncontracted players after the 2011 season, it can sign the balance of up to 16 players at the end of the 2012 season

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              • Triple B
                Formerly 'BBB'
                • Feb 2003
                • 6999

                Syd, that refers to signing uncontracted players WITHOUT going thru the draft. It's a concession that GC had in year 1 (Ablett, Harbrow etc).

                Once the player is in the draft, surely it is open slather.
                Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                • SydAFLFan
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 40

                  I think the rule was established to stop the Giants & Suns from approaching every uncontracted played and amassing a super team through the draft. Without the rule GWS could have approached players from a club like Collingwood and said to O'Brien, Wellingham, Cloke or any other player that was coming to the end of their contract in 2011 or 2012, that if they all nominated for the draft that they would all be picked by GWS on huge contracts.

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                  • Triple B
                    Formerly 'BBB'
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6999

                    Ok then Syd, you can run with Rucci's story, we'll wait and see...
                    Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                    • Swanner
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 186

                      We are doing Adeliade a big favour

                      By the Swans entering the race and tempting Tippett we are helping the player and Adelaide. Tippett gets to nudge up his price with the Suns and Adelaide get some leverage on the Suns to do a deal. Given the excellent cooperative trade history between the two clubs I wouldnt be suprised if Adelaide approached us first to get us keen on dealing. I reckon it will be a player plus pick 22 and $800k for Tippet (plus the attraction of playing finals and competing for premierships). the player most likely will be Grundy given his age and background. Given he is moving to a preliminary finalist it would be attractive - plus Adelaide desperately need a key backmen.

                      If that's all we did in trade week (along with re-signing JPK) i would be very happy.

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Just reading the Herald Sun, $1mill a season for Tippett, what a joke.

                        We haven't got a mill spare in our salary cap and he is not worth more than $500k IMO. What about if he gets another bad concussion in his first game?

                        This gets more ridiculous the more you delve into it. I reckon we are just the "other" team to get GCS to come to the party.

                        This is probably all just a smokescreen and there will be a sudden announcement we've actually traded for say Brent Moloney! Who by the way comes free of draft picks :-)

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          Tippett?

                          I would rather we have a crack at Dawes on say 400-500k a year. Was a spud this year, but showed what he can do in 2010 and with confidence back could be a 50+ goal forward.

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                          • jono2707
                            Goes up to 11
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3326

                            Sorry but has there been any solid proof that Grundy is on the table, or is this all speculation?

                            We won the premiership thanks mainly to the most solid defence in the league and I am not comfortable in doing anything to tinker with it.....

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                            • Melbourne_Blood
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2010
                              • 3312

                              Tippett?

                              Originally posted by jono2707
                              Sorry but has there been any solid proof that Grundy is on the table, or is this all speculation?

                              We won the premiership thanks mainly to the most solid defence in the league and I am not comfortable in doing anything to tinker with it.....
                              There is no solid proof we are even interested in Tippett, let one any of the rest of it.

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                              • johnno
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 1102

                                Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                                I would rather we have a crack at Dawes on say 400-500k a year. Was a spud this year, but showed what he can do in 2010 and with confidence back could be a 50+ goal forward.

                                What would we offer Collingwood?

                                What is it we have inexcess of that they need/want?

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