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  • GongSwan
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 1362

    Originally posted by DST
    Come on guys, take off the red and white glasses.

    If Adelaide finally accept a deal, it will be pick 22 and Jesse White and even that deal is skewed in our favour. I would imagine that we are trying to get pick 13 from GWS (for our pick 22 and a players combo) to make sure the deal is done with them.

    There is no way they will take our second round pick and White, it would be an insult to them and they would be well within their rights to let KT walk into the uncertainty of the ND and PSD.

    If we would like to maintain our relationship with the rest of the comp as fair traders then the deal was always going to be pick 22/player or less if we can manufacture a deal with someone else for a lower pick.

    DST
    Agree we must make every effort to be fair minded
    You can't argue with a sick mind - Joe Walsh

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6480

      Sydney will provide an offer that is well within the reach of what adelaide should accept.........we have to remember "nothing" is what they get if they dont accept our offer

      that is not acceptable and if I was an Adelaide fan I would say the AFC are idiots to not accept the first round pick min.
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        Sydney will provide an offer that is well within the reach of what adelaide should accept.........we have to remember "nothing" is what they get if they dont accept our offer

        that is not acceptable and if I was an Adelaide fan I would say the AFC are idiots to not accept the first round pick min.
        Not what the Crows fans are saying on Bigfooty. Apparently it's our first round pick PLUS Rohan or similar. Gee, Tippett must be as good as Lockett it would seem!

        In all honesty, Crows will be short changed if they accept our first pick but we don't have anything else to offer unless one of our young guns wants to go home to Melbourne or Footscray for one of their high draft picks. Does't seem any of our young guns have stuck up their hand to say I'll go back to Melbourne to break the dead lock for you.

        So I think Adelaide will have to accept our first pick but be very unhappy to do so and we'll morally owe them a favour in future. Best not to draft any SA players for a few years methinks!

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        • Auntie.Gerald
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2009
          • 6480

          they will want to draft some of ours next year on the hammer me thinks !!
          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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          • swanspant12
            On the Rookie List
            • Oct 2009
            • 593

            Originally posted by DST
            Come on guys, take off the red and white glasses.

            If Adelaide finally accept a deal, it will be pick 22 and Jesse White and even that deal is skewed in our favour. I would imagine that we are trying to get pick 13 from GWS (for our pick 22 and a players combo) to make sure the deal is done with them.

            There is no way they will take our second round pick and White, it would be an insult to them and they would be well within their rights to let KT walk into the uncertainty of the ND and PSD.

            If we would like to maintain our relationship with the rest of the comp as fair traders then the deal was always going to be pick 22/player or less if we can manufacture a deal with someone else for a lower pick.

            DST
            Geez so what is tippett worth a top 10 pick is he? People overrate this bloke too much. Hes worth a 15-20 pick plus jesse white.
            LRT. Lord Roberts-Thompson. He may look like the Munster, but looks can be deceiving.


            2012 Bloods Premiers.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              First, I feel 95% sure that we could pick up Tippett in the ND with our pick 23, as no one would risk taking an uncooperative player in lieu of good prospect that is pleased to be with their club (Luke Ball situation).

              From a list management perspective, the Swans would like to get Tippett plus at least one draftee that we rate as having a fairly good chance of being a 200 game player. I don't know what number in the draft that equates to. Let's say around pick 25 or better. The problem is that we are not willing to give up any premiership player, plus Rowan, McGlynn and perhaps even Everett. Additionally, we are probably not willing to part will around a half dozen of our young recent draft picks playing in the reserves. So that doesn't leave much to trade with. I figure around 6 players, with the most likely being White, TDL and Meredith.

              I think we would be willing to give Adelaide whatever we can get in picks, upgrades of picks, and these fringe players, so long as we still had something like a top 25 pick at the end. I don't know if it can be done. Maybe chances will improve once the compo picks are announced.

              For example, if we could trade Meredith, TDL and our pick 42 for a pick in the mid 20s, we might be willing to give Adelaide pick 23 + White. I think all the parties would be content (maybe not happy) with this sort of outcome. Whether something like this can be put together is anyone's guess. It's hard to say who will crack if it can't be done, but we are one's in the driver's seat.

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                White, Meredith and TDL have almost no value as trades and no club would want to use three of their vacant spots on them.

                Either the Crows accept unders in the form of pick 23 or they make stand for the future and send Tippett to the PSD where I doubt he'll last until our pick.

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  Originally posted by 707
                  White, Meredith and TDL have almost no value as trades and no club would want to use three of their vacant spots on them.

                  Either the Crows accept unders in the form of pick 23 or they make stand for the future and send Tippett to the PSD where I doubt he'll last until our pick.
                  Agree. The problem is that the players we are willing to give up, nobody wants. But I do feel we would almost certainly get him if he opted for the ND. As for the PSD, perhaps it's around 50-50.

                  I still think all 3 above mentioned players could make the 22 at Port if given the chance.

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                  • ugg
                    Can you feel it?
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15970

                    Twitter / Shutts10: Swan Jesse White & draft ...

                    Swan Jesse White & draft pick in exchange for Kurt Tippett. At this stage, it's a likely scenario. Tune in Ten News 5.40pm.


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                    • R-1
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1042

                      This is acceptable and pleasing.

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                      • jono2707
                        Goes up to 11
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3326

                        A Facebook feed (AFL Trade Rumours) says the deal's done - Jesse + first rounder. I'm good with that if it's true....

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                        • swanspant12
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 593

                          Originally posted by jono2707
                          A Facebook feed (AFL Trade Rumours) says the deal's done - Jesse + first rounder. I'm good with that if it's true....
                          Link me please?
                          LRT. Lord Roberts-Thompson. He may look like the Munster, but looks can be deceiving.


                          2012 Bloods Premiers.

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                          • jono2707
                            Goes up to 11
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3326

                            The page is AFL Draft News, Trade News and Gossip. They put up some silly rumors etc but generally have gotten it right when breaking news of deals actually done.

                            But I don't guarantee any of it yet...

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                            • Dosser
                              Just wild about Harry
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1833

                              Originally posted by ugg
                              Twitter / Shutts10: Swan Jesse White & draft ...

                              Swan Jesse White & draft pick in exchange for Kurt Tippett. At this stage, it's a likely scenario. Tune in Ten News 5.40pm.


                              If Ugg says it's true then it's true.

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                              • GongSwan
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 1362

                                It may not be all that bad for Adelaide, with the new ruck rule, Jesse could find himself a place in the ruck, good leap, not much at out bodying opposition, with the rucks seperated, he could fit the mould, as well as being very mobile and a good kick
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