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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    Yes its hard to think its the same side as last year. If the Giants wanted to ,they could have beaten us by 10 goals plus. Am I the only one on this thread that believes Tippett should be dropped to the NEAFL? He has to show something, its was OK for goodsey to do this, therefore Tippett should be in the same boat. 62 hit outs by Mumford is embarrassing. If Tippett still cannot play decent in the NEAFL level, maybe we could hope he decides to retire and enables us to free up monies and find a decent ruckman for next year.

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    • Aprilbr
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2016
      • 1803

      Yes Mummy killed us in the ruck last night. Tippett was one of many senior players who had a terrible game. His form since returning from being injured half way through last season is below par. Our ruck stocks are thin at present so he will get more opportunities for this reason.


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      • Velour&Ruffles
        Regular in the Side
        • Jun 2006
        • 896

        Originally posted by grarmy
        Everyone is correct. It was rash and thoughtless of me to call out Tippo as a flog. Unthinking of me. Perhaps it was a response to what I saw last night - a player who is confused and unable to execute the skills required of a senior Swan. A shadow of the great Adelaide Crows player that he once was. do apologise. I accept that I should have referred to him as an flop.
        Well said grarmy.
        My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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        • Gekko7
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2014
          • 2

          I too have to apologise for singling out Tippet after Saturday night, he wasn't alone in low contribution. My frustration with him is long term. Four years down the track weighing his impact vs his cost, he can't be rated a successful signing.

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          • Steve
            Regular in the Side
            • Jan 2003
            • 676

            Originally posted by Aprilbr
            Yes Mummy killed us in the ruck last night. Tippett was one of many senior players who had a terrible game. His form since returning from being injured half way through last season is below par.
            Tippett missed rounds 13-21 last year, and the thing I think is clear is that he is a confidence player that needs continuity. Mainly just playing week-after-week, but also I think he's a player that settles into a role if he's given the opportunity to.

            Realistically he was never going to have a huge finals series last year - that was definitely destroyed when injured in the QF.

            This year he played Rd 1, was injured in the first quarter of Rd 2, missed Rds 3-4, and has now only been back 1 week for Rd 5.

            He would have also spent the whole pre-season planning on spending most of his time forward, supporting Naismith in the ruck. You can argue that the highly-paid players should be more adaptable to circumstances, come in and perform at a high level straight away etc - but I think with Naismith back in the team and with a few more games to run into some form and confidence, Tippett can still be a very important player.

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            • Billericay
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2013
              • 712

              Originally posted by Steve
              Tippett missed rounds 13-21 last year, and the thing I think is clear is that he is a confidence player that needs continuity. Mainly just playing week-after-week, but also I think he's a player that settles into a role if he's given the opportunity to.

              Realistically he was never going to have a huge finals series last year - that was definitely destroyed when injured in the QF.

              This year he played Rd 1, was injured in the first quarter of Rd 2, missed Rds 3-4, and has now only been back 1 week for Rd 5.

              He would have also spent the whole pre-season planning on spending most of his time forward, supporting Naismith in the ruck. You can argue that the highly-paid players should be more adaptable to circumstances, come in and perform at a high level straight away etc - but I think with Naismith back in the team and with a few more games to run into some form and confidence, Tippett can still be a very important player.
              I agree Tippett is a confidence player who needs continuity and who will improve. Hard to fathom the difference between the last game v GWS and the 2016 final, in which he had the same number of hitouts in less than a half against Mummy as he did in the full game Saturday night.

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              • Mug Punter
                On the Rookie List
                • Nov 2009
                • 3325

                We can sugar coat it all we like but Tippett's deal, and it's a six year deal now, has DUD written all over it.

                Think about it. If we hadn't gone down his gamble, and I do think it was more of a gamble than Buddy as Buddy had at least evidence of sustained excellence, then we'd definitely still have Mummy on the list, quite likely have Mitchell and might still have Nankervis.

                And the cherry on top is the fact he is top of the list of the players that went MIA in the two Grand Finals (p0lease no excuses for him there).

                This year our hands are tied but we do have some cards for next season. Nobody was going to take his two year deal off our hands at the end of last season but I do think you might get a club prepared to offer him $500,000 a year for two years with a club option for a third. And he may take that.

                We won't get much, if any, trade currency but we may well get $900,000 (or whatever he is on) off the wages bill. That lets us start to rebuild and go into the market for a Free Agent next year or bank some cap space for the year after

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  It's easy to criticize the Tippett deal in retrospect, but at the time he was very much in demand and touted as one of the best power forwards in the game and on the rise. And we didn't have a true power forward at the time. I suppose we were in competition with others for his services and had to outbid them to get his signature.

                  I can't see how he leaves until after 2018. It's a long time till then. If he comes good, we may well sign him up for another year. If not, we may well have to delist him.

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                  • Mug Punter
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3325

                    Originally posted by Ludwig
                    I can't see how he leaves until after 2018. It's a long time till then. If he comes good, we may well sign him up for another year. If not, we may well have to delist him.
                    At the moment nobody would touch him, this season he has been plain average in my book and I just cannot see him getting any better.

                    Looks like Tarzan, Plays like Jane

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                    • Meg
                      Go Swannies!
                      Site Admin
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4828

                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      It's easy to criticize the Tippett deal in retrospect, but at the time he was very much in demand and touted as one of the best power forwards in the game and on the rise. And we didn't have a true power forward at the time. I suppose we were in competition with others for his services and had to outbid them to get his signature.
                      Exactly right. Tippett's recruitment made very good sense at the time for the reasons you explain. Describing it now as a dud deal is using the easy option of hindsight.

                      NOBODY knew when Tippett was recruited that Franklin would come along 12 months later. If the timing of Tippett's and Buddy's availabilty had been reversed, I suspect Buddy and Mumford would be playing for the Swans and Tippett for the Gold Coast.

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                      • neilfws
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1821

                        Originally posted by Meg
                        NOBODY knew when Tippett was recruited that Franklin would come along 12 months later.
                        Remember until the last moment, we thought he was headed to GWS. As someone said to me last Saturday night "imagine that team (the current Giants) with Buddy."

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          I wallowed in nostalgia today, watching the match excerpts on You Tube from last year and previous. Tippett was a very good player then and I reckon once he is properly over his injuries will be again.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • Meg
                            Go Swannies!
                            Site Admin
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4828

                            Originally posted by dimelb
                            I wallowed in nostalgia today, watching the match excerpts on You Tube from last year and previous. Tippett was a very good player then and I reckon once he is properly over his injuries will be again.
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                            • MattW
                              Veterans List
                              • May 2011
                              • 4208

                              Originally posted by dimelb
                              I wallowed in nostalgia today, watching the match excerpts on You Tube from last year and previous. Tippett was a very good player then and I reckon once he is properly over his injuries will be again.
                              Those couple of marks inside 50 in the first quarter on the weekend gave me hope Tippett had turned the corner. Unfortunately, not yet. Still not sure whether it's fitness or confidence.

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                              • Billericay
                                Regular in the Side
                                • May 2013
                                • 712

                                Originally posted by MattW
                                Those couple of marks inside 50 in the first quarter on the weekend gave me hope Tippett had turned the corner. Unfortunately, not yet. Still not sure whether it's fitness or confidence.
                                both

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