You'd expect that Mitchell will return after the bye. If Lloyd is sub tonight you can count on it.
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I think it's a clear sign that Mitchell has dropped down the pecking order, when Brandon Jack was selected ahead of Mitchell when Mcglynn went out.
Agree with Ludwig that we need key defenders. If we lost our two key defenders like the Hawks have, we would be in deep trouble. We need to ad another key defender and giving up someone like Mitchell may help us get a decent one! I don't think X.Richards or Jordan Lockyer are viable key defensive prospects!Comment
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I think it's a clear sign that Mitchell has dropped down the pecking order, when Brandon Jack was selected ahead of Mitchell when Mcglynn went out.
Agree with Ludwig that we need key defenders. If we lost our two key defenders like the Hawks have, we would be in deep trouble. We need to ad another key defender and giving up someone like Mitchell may help us get a decent one! I don't think X.Richards or Jordan Lockyer are viable key defensive prospects!He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)Comment
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BJ is the better choice as sub, but any one of Mitchell, ROK, Gazza and possibly Towers probably would have gotten the nod if they needed to replace McGlynn with somebody to start in the 21.
Of course I may look like a dill in 20 minutes when the sub is announced and it's not BJ, but I've looked like a dill before...lolDriver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09Comment
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A bit of underrating of Mitchell.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he broke into a very strong team, while Lloyd got his chance due to injuries.
Didn't Mitchell pick up 56 touches one week in the ressies, and it wasn't enough, so the next week he got 60 touches, then got picked for senior debut.
I haven't heard anything like that for Lloyd....or anyone else for that matter!The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.Comment
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A bit of underrating of Mitchell.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he broke into a very strong team, while Lloyd got his chance due to injuries.
Didn't Mitchell pick up 56 touches one week in the ressies, and it wasn't enough, so the next week he got 60 touches, then got picked for senior debut.
I haven't heard anything like that for Lloyd....or anyone else for that matter!Comment
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possibly the mid season, Lloyd would be worth more if you want to take injuries and risk of further injuries into account...The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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They are different players, with different strengths. Who gets to play depends on the team balance. For the first few games we had too many slow inside midfield types, including Tom Mitchell and ROK. Jake is faster with elegant delivery. Tom M. had all the rave reviews, and is still probably rated higher, but in a team with exceptionally gifted inside mids, he is further down that particular pecking order. That ankle injury last year also seems to have affected him a bit. Brandon seems a bit out of sorts, but his strength is that electric burst speed. Horse realised we needed more speed after that first month. I think Jake Lloyd's precise delivery would be attracting some attention.Comment
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I'd like to think that Mitchell has to win his way back.
ie: if Lloyd keeps on performing the way he is, then he stays. Micthell either has to perform in was way that demands that he is included, or Lloyd drops the ball a bit and Mitchell becomes a more favorable option.
Great thing to be able to say about Lloyd at the momentThe difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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Tom Mitchell to be traded?
Don't worry, I'm a big fan of the ball magnet but as the midfield has continued to perform so well and with two possibly three very high draft choice midfielders joining in the next two drafts one does wonder if this is a possibility ala F/S Kennedy leaving the Hawks for us.
It seems to have happened so quickly, one minute we are looking to have an ageing side, next minute we have a superstar midfield that is young!
If you look at it closely, we do have too many quality midfielders and a batch of uncapped ones playing ressies that could be good too. The club may decide to move some on, some may decide to look for more opportunity elsewhere but I can't see Tom Mitchell being one of them.
Lloyd has been good so far in the seniors but has a way to go to prove himself best 22.
I also think that BJ despite getting a call up isn't as good this year as last.Comment
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I think the club will be very keen to keep Mitchell...
The problem may come from another club desperately in need of quality inside mids, and there's plenty of them, offering him a big, long contract....that the Swans can't afford.
Lamb springs to mind.Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MTComment
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Talking about whether we keep Lloyd or Mitchell in the long term is not positive. Firstly, they are vastly different players. Lloyd is a space magnet who's delivery is generally very good. Mitchell is an in and under extractor who's hands are sensational. Lloyd can kick a very long goal from a set shot whereas Tommy is better on the snap. Very different players and both are required in the long term. Let's just enjoy the party watching the kids develop. I think Lloydy is developing a very good understanding with Buddy by the way and I don't think he is going anywhere but up. His long pass to Buddy last night was precisely where Buddy pointed, with pinpoint accuracy. Wonderful kick. The only worry we have with either of them is Tommy's continual battle with soft tissue injury.
In a few years, maybe two or three we are going to have a new wave of retirements after the wave at the end of this year. There is room for all our young mids. They will slot in when the time comes. Young Georgie boy is only 18 and in his first season and hasn't done a full pre-season yet and he has plenty of ups and lots of time to develop. By the time he develops there will be players looking to retire (3 years). The coaches will give him a sniff along the way just to keep him keen the same as the other boys.Comment
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