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  • Matt80
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2013
    • 1802

    Originally posted by ugg
    Stanley from St Kilda to Geelong for pick 21

    Gws acquire pick 7 by trading Jaksch, Whiley and pick 19 to Carlton

    Now we wait to see if St Kilda will bite on the pick1 for picks 4 and 7 deal
    I don?t like the Swans being on the sidelines for Trade Week. I love this week.

    This is like being banned from a Vegas Pool Party as Kate Upton walks in and Buddy has you in his Cabana. I feel frustrated.

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    • swansrob
      Senior Player
      • May 2009
      • 1265

      Originally posted by jono2707
      One would also therefore expect that Goodsey's 2015 salary will be commensurate with a fringe-22 player....
      Goodes stated a while ago that if he played on on 2015 it'd be with quite a substantial pay cut

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      • ugg
        Can you feel it?
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 15970

        Missed this in last night's wrap

        A trade sending Biggs to the Bulldogs and Liam Jones fell over on Tuesday, with the Bulldogs wanting more for Jones. Sydney would have received pick 46, with the Dogs taking Biggs and 58. The Bulldogs are now planning to take the Swans rookie as a delisted free agent, while the Blues are saying they can secure Jones in the pre-season draft.


        Would have been
        Sydney
        In: #46
        Out: Biggs, #58

        Western Bulldogs
        In: Biggs, #58
        Out: Jones

        Carlton
        In: Jones
        Out: #46

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        • Conor_Dillon
          On the Rookie List
          • Jun 2013
          • 1224

          Originally posted by liz
          I must admit that trade just doesn't seem to make much sense. St Kilda have one decent tall forward (OK, he's a lot more than decent but he's also near to the end of his career). Stanley seems to be their next best option and he's decent, if patchy. So I don't see why they would get rid of him. Until, of course, Geelong come along and offer pick 21. Then I can understand why they'd trade him in a flash.
          Spencer White is the equivelant of Stanley but with more potential and Membrey will be there as well...pick 21 is massive overs for Stanley!

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          Originally posted by ugg
          Stanley from St Kilda to Geelong for pick 21

          Gws acquire pick 7 by trading Jaksch, Whiley and pick 19 to Carlton

          Now we wait to see if St Kilda will bite on the pick1 for picks 4 and 7 deal
          They'd be silly not to...from all reports the top 7 or 8 potential players are all relatively even.
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          • Conor_Dillon
            On the Rookie List
            • Jun 2013
            • 1224

            If St Kilda do end up with 4 and 7, they'll have 4 picks in the top 21...is this right? Surely then they can afford to give us their next pick (which I'm not sure the number of) for Membrey?
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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by ugg
              Stanley from St Kilda to Geelong for pick 21

              Gws acquire pick 7 by trading Jaksch, Whiley and pick 19 to Carlton

              Now we wait to see if St Kilda will bite on the pick1 for picks 4 and 7 deal
              St Kilda should jump at the deal. They can get 2 top badly needed KPPs. In 2 years time, GWS#1 pick Petracca quits the club and gets picked up by the Saints in the PSD. Isn't that the way the system works?

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              • Matt80
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2013
                • 1802

                Originally posted by ugg
                Missed this in last night's wrap



                Would have been
                Sydney
                In: #46
                Out: Biggs, #58

                Western Bulldogs
                In: Biggs, #58
                Out: Jones

                Carlton
                In: Jones
                Out: #46

                [/FONT][/COLOR]http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/giants-and-bulldogs-dig-in-on-tom-boydryan-griffen-trade-20141014-1161jg.html
                That's a shame. If we had got to 46 then we could have swapped 3rd rounds with the Saints to get to 41.

                There was a rumour swirling around the Demons Big Footy page that the Swans were going to cut a deal to get picks 2 and 3!

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                • Matt80
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 1802

                  Just a hypothetical.

                  What happens to Buddy's contract if he decides to follow Jarred Hayne to the the NFL? Would it just be a simple cancelled contract?

                  Buddy is the only AFL player with the mixture of physical attributes to make it in the NFL as a non-punter. He would be an exciting wide receiver, with his speed and agility, but would need to increase his power.

                  He would be a handy punter as well as he can kick 70m off one step.

                  I believe strongly that he will stay in the AFL.

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                  • ernie koala
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2007
                    • 3251

                    This is just pie in the sky type talk....But I need to correct you Matt...

                    Other than punting. Tight End is the only other NFL position Buddy could play with any chance of success.
                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                    • 0918330512
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1654

                      Originally posted by Matt80
                      Just a hypothetical.

                      What happens to Buddy's contract if he decides to follow Jarred Hayne to the the NFL? Would it just be a simple cancelled contract?
                      Same as if he has a career ending injury or simply retires I suspect. My understanding is we don't have to pay out his remaining contract to him, but it would remain as occupied cap space for the remaining duration of his contract (which is what the bean counters at AFLHQ warned us about when we signed him in the first place).

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                      • Matt80
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 1802

                        Originally posted by ernie koala
                        This is just pie in the sky type talk....But I need to correct you Matt...

                        Other than punting. Tight End is the only other NFL position Buddy could play with any chance of success.
                        He is too light for tight end. He is around 225 pounds. NFL tight ends are over 250 pounds. Have a look at Vernon Davis. He is a good size for wide receiver, but would have to get used to those hits over the middle.

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          Originally posted by 09183305
                          Same as if he has a career ending injury or simply retires I suspect. My understanding is we don't have to pay out his remaining contract to him, but it would remain as occupied cap space for the remaining duration of his contract (which is what the bean counters at AFLHQ warned us about when we signed him in the first place).
                          This is my understanding as well, as it is the one that the AFL made public at the time. Yet this seems to be the exception to the rule where if a player no longer fulfills his contract it doesn't get included in the salary cap. It appears that there are 3 different AFL rule books. One for the Swans, one for Collingwood and one for the rest of the league.

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                          • ugg
                            Can you feel it?
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15970

                            GWS trade Tom Boyd to WB for Griffen and pick 6.

                            GWS now own picks 4, 6 and 7. They're bound to trade two of them for pick 1.

                            It's all falling into place!
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                            • DamY
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1479

                              Argh I wish I knew what was going on!!!

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                              • Matt80
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 1802

                                Originally posted by ugg
                                GWS trade Tom Boyd to WB for Griffen and pick 6.

                                GWS now own picks 4, 6 and 7. They're bound to trade two of them for pick 1.

                                It's all falling into place!
                                Is it good business to trade two top 7 picks for number one? Would it be better for them to take three top 7 players?

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