2015 academy discussion thread (with some FS thrown in for good measure)

[ugg]

Mills aiming to make his return in two weeks for our reserves. Which would make it the Redland game as the curtain raiser to Hawthorn at ANZ

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Intersting Phantom Draft. Mills at 3 and Dunkley at 10, not suprised as Eddies mates pushed up the Swans draftees, trying to con other clubs to bid early.

Josh Dunkley stats against WA
Disps: 17
Kicks: 11
HPs: 6
Goals: 0
Behinds: 0
Cont Marks: 1
Uncont Marks: 5
Tackles: 3
Clearances: 3
Clangers: 1
Free F: 1
Free A: 0
Cont Poss: 8
Uncont Poss: 9
I50: 2
Goal Assist: 1
EFF: 65%

Fair effort for 2nd game

[707]

Brisbane is in an interesting situation this year. Looks like they will finish last or second last so with their first pick they take Schache or Weitering.

Then the first of their two standout academy players Keays will be bid on before pick 10 meaning they will have to use their high second round and high third round to secure him.

It also now appears likely that the second of their highly rated picks will get bid on between 15 and 20 meaning they will need to down grade their 2016 first rounder to secure him. I reckon they will do it unless they have an absolute star in their academy for 2016.

The ND is going to be super interesting this year.

[Mug Punter]

Brisbane is in an interesting situation this year. Looks like they will finish last or second last so with their first pick they take Schache or Weitering.

Then the first of their two standout academy players Keays will be bid on before pick 10 meaning they will have to use their high second round and high third round to secure him.

It also now appears likely that the second of their highly rated picks will get bid on between 15 and 20 meaning they will need to down grade their 2016 first rounder to secure him. I reckon they will do it unless they have an absolute star in their academy for 2016.

The ND is going to be super interesting this year.

Or perhaps they will trade James Aish for roughly what they picked him for initially (#7) so as to fund the local kids.

If ever there is a club that needs to get the academy system feeding its list and stemming a go home factor it is that club.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them also go for a priority pick for next year which I'd hope the AFL should consider favourably as they have started to put their house in order

[Conor_Dillon]

It also now appears likely that the second of their highly rated picks will get bid on between 15 and 20 meaning they will need to down grade their 2016 first rounder to secure him. I reckon they will do it unless they have an absolute star in their academy for 2016.

The ND is going to be super interesting this year.

I can't think of his name but I'm pretty sure they do have another potential gun coming through.

[Triple B]

Or perhaps they will trade James Aish for roughly what they picked him for initially (#7) so as to fund the local kids.

On what he's produced so far I doubt a club would be giving up pick 7 or any first rounder pick for him...

[Mug Punter]

On what he's produced so far I doubt a club would be giving up pick 7 or any first rounder pick for him...

You're probably right there. Nowhere is the need for an academy system shown more than that club

[Nico]

Announced today that the AFL has written to all 18 clubs asking for their thoughts on using future draft picks in this year's draft. Have I been misinformed about this. I thought this was part of the document regards Academy and F/S picks and the points system.

Is it not a fait accompli that the points system will come in this next draft?

[Mug Punter]

Announced today that the AFL has written to all 18 clubs asking for their thoughts on using future draft picks in this year's draft. Have I been misinformed about this. I thought this was part of the document regards Academy and F/S picks and the points system.

Is it not a fait accompli that the points system will come in this next draft?

I think the future draft pick issue is related but separate in that it can be unresolved and the points system can still come in.

I guess the Melbourne clubs are saying that we have more flexibility now if we have a bumper academy crop so they should too.

Not sure it really is a consistent argument but couldn't care less really. Any club trading away future draft picks should do so at their own peril

[Doctor]

Announced today that the AFL has written to all 18 clubs asking for their thoughts on using future draft picks in this year's draft. Have I been misinformed about this. I thought this was part of the document regards Academy and F/S picks and the points system.

Is it not a fait accompli that the points system will come in this next draft?

Apparently it is because some clubs have complained that going into a points deficit allows clubs Academy and F/S picks an "advantage".

[Mug Punter]

Apparently it is because some clubs have complained that going into a points deficit allows clubs Academy and F/S picks an "advantage".

They have a point as I guess it does give us greater flexibility over list management - if we know this year is a bumper crop and that next year will be lean we can double dip and not pick next year.

If it shuts the likes of Eddie up then allow it I reckon

[CureTheSane]

Every club gets the opportunity for F/S selections.
To a large degree it's a fairly level playing field.
The academies are the future of footy expansion.
I'd be happier with scrapping F/S altogether, just to see Eddie's face.

[Melbourne_Blood]

This 'expert' rates Mills as 3rd best and Dunkley at 24th In this chart. That would be a good result for us. http://www.sen.com.au/news/07-15/our...rd-takes-shape

[Mug Punter]

This 'expert' rates Mills as 3rd best and Dunkley at 24th In this chart. That would be a good result for us. http://www.sen.com.au/news/07-15/our...rd-takes-shape

Yep, you'd take that.

Good to see two Lions academy kids in there, I think they have another one (Matheison I think) who is also rated top 30.

They are in a terrible position with young Weitering just signing with Pickers. Another great reason for us having home grown talent, you just feel the influence of player agents will be less pronounced with home grown.

If I was Brisbane I'd be seriously tempted to trade their #1 draft pick, maybe with a player included, and make sure they can afford those three players without going into deficit. They just cannot afford to lose another top 10 draft pick after two years.

We talk about the benefits of the Academy system and it's all about development and the cream on our list. That's all well enough but for Brisbane I'd say the academy system working is almost a case of life or death for that club. The go home factor is just killing them

[Conor_Dillon]

They'll take Josh Shache with the number 1 pick who has already stated publicly that he'd to love to play for Brisbane, I believe his dad may have played some games there or something?