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  • Industrial Fan
    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
    • Aug 2006
    • 3318

    Originally posted by liz
    Let’s hope people like Newman keep talking. Might be the best thing to get some people to reconsider their position, especially if he keeps doing so without any regard for basic facts.
    thing is it’s clear Newman hasn’t watched the documentary based on his comments in the article.
    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8559

      Originally posted by Industrial Fan
      thing is it’s clear Newman hasn’t watched the documentary based on his comments in the article.
      Which makes me wonder how he can call it 'grovelling'.....he's just biting back because he knows he isn't going to come out of this looking good. Weird how bigots 'double down' and just make themselves look even more stupid.....because they actually are.

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      • Matty10
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2007
        • 1331

        Originally posted by stevoswan
        Yes, he makes some good points but it largely appears to be another envy driven 'rugby league is better than AFL' argument.....which is typical of Masters. He could be accused here of taking advantage of an embarrassing period for the AFL to perform some 'NRL one up man-ship'.....but the AFL do need to be publicly embarrassed on this subject.
        That’s how I read it too.

        I’m actually surprised he still has a job after some comments he said on Offsiders earlier in the year where he basically associated domestic violence with an ethnic culture. Didn’t hear a thing about it afterwards, but I was gobsmacked at the time.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4050

          Originally posted by stevoswan
          Yes, he makes some good points but it largely appears to be another envy driven 'rugby league is better than AFL' argument.....which is typical of Masters. He could be accused here of taking advantage of an embarrassing period for the AFL to perform some 'NRL one up man-ship'.....but the AFL do need to be publicly embarrassed on this subject.
          No need to be defensive about performance of AFL management. Rugby League has many problems but they have done a better job than AFL with indigenous issues and they don't big note about it like AFL. Handled the non singing of the national anthem by some indigenous players with aplomb and the crowds accepted it. pretty sure there would be some uproar down here.

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8559

            Originally posted by Blood Fever
            No need to be defensive about performance of AFL management. Rugby League has many problems but they have done a better job than AFL with indigenous issues and they don't big note about it like AFL. Handled the non singing of the national anthem by some indigenous players with aplomb and the crowds accepted it. pretty sure there would be some uproar down here.
            Certainly wasn't being defensive about the AFL, just pointing out Master's historic bias for rugby league..... but I do agree they handle indigenous issues better than our lot.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4050

              Originally posted by stevoswan
              Certainly wasn't being defensive about the AFL, just pointing out Master's historic bias for rugby league..... but I do agree they handle indigenous issues better than our lot.
              Fair call but like journos in Melbourne, he is sticking up for his sport.

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              • lwjoyner
                Regular in the Side
                • Nov 2004
                • 952

                Herald Sun publishes in 50/50 today someones comments about adam. So much for Murdoch press saying adam was treated badly.

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                • barry
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8499

                  Originally posted by Blood Fever
                  Fair call but like journos in Melbourne, he is sticking up for his sport.
                  Roy Masters' is notorious for kicking AFL any chance he can get. Its pure opportunism to dig the boots in now. Definitely a journo to ignore.

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4050

                    Originally posted by barry
                    Roy Masters' is notorious for kicking AFL any chance he can get. Its pure opportunism to dig the boots in now. Definitely a journo to ignore.
                    This article is well written and paints a clear picture of the arrogance and phoney nature of the AFL administration. Melbourne AFL media bow down by and large.

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                    • Mauzza
                      Pushing for Selection
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 57

                      Keep an eye on your TV guides
                      10 picks up Adam Goodes film – TV Tonight

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                      • Mel
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 883

                        I didn't realise that the Western Bulldogs had released a press statement about The Final Quarter and racism in general over the weekend:

                        Club statement: ‘The Final Quarter’ documentary - westernbulldogs.com.au
                        Life's not a spectator sport

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Originally posted by Mel
                          I didn't realise that the Western Bulldogs had released a press statement about The Final Quarter and racism in general over the weekend:

                          Club statement: ‘The Final Quarter’ documentary - westernbulldogs.com.au
                          It's a good statement. Feels more than tokenistic. Congratulations to them.
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            Here's another article, this time from former Swan, Crow and Magpie Tony Armstrong: Adam Goodes racism view from Sydney Swans AFL player Tony Armstrong - PlayersVoice.
                            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                            • S.S. Bleeder
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2165

                              Originally posted by barry
                              Roy Masters' is notorious for kicking AFL any chance he can get. Its pure opportunism to dig the boots in now. Definitely a journo to ignore.
                              Partially true, but that's his job and he's always been pro NRL. It's very similar to reporters writing for Victorian papers who are biased towards the Victorian clubs. They're writing to their market. That's the way it works.

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                              • Mel_C
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4470

                                Originally posted by lwjoyner
                                Herald Sun publishes in 50/50 today someones comments about adam. So much for Murdoch press saying adam was treated badly.
                                I saw that comment. Carol writes..."Enough of Adam Goodes. He's big enough to look after himself. How's the young female victim?"

                                Again here is someone that just doesn't get it. And who is actually the real victim? Plus the girl is no longer 13...she is a 19 year old adult.

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