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  • goswannies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3049

    #46
    Originally posted by mcs
    One thing I like about Nankervis is he will take no @@@@ - he will go in hard, which might be just the tonic we need. Jones would of been great in that space too - he is a bit of an angry ant.

    For the medically informed people on here, any chance Mills could be back should we make the GF given its only a minor hammy?
    Probably 2-3 weeks for a grade one strain. If it was during the season 3 weeks to ensure it healed, as re-tears and resulting in chronic hamstring problems are a problem for returning too soon.

    If it was Heath James, 3 weeks - minimum - because of chronic hamstring problems.

    In Cal's situation, where it is 3 weeks to a GF, he'd be a chance for the granny, pending recovery & testing.

    Moreover, 2 weeks is a possibility if it's only a minor Grade 1 strain, on the grounds that 1) he passes the fitness tests, 2) he could get us through to a GF as a valuable player, 3) if he re-injured and we don't make a GF, he has the post & pre-season to recover, if he re-injured an we do make a GF, well, we're in a GF, if he doesn't re-injure it's a good outcome.
    The other thing they would consider is the risk of a much more serious injury if he did re-tear & the longs term repercussions (refer to Heath James).
    If he was older, the recovery would likely be slower too. He's you & younger tissue id theoretically a little more resilient. I don't know his history of hamstring injuries (if none, that helps).

    At this time of the season, it's very much more about risk vs reward.

    When it happened I said to my dad that I thought it was a grade one as he didn't crumple in a heap, nor did he clutch it in agony (he grabbed for it & slowed up but still ran through a little). He seemed to jog a little (albeit uncomfortably) as he came off & I said to dad that my impression of his hitting the ground with his fist was possibly more that the medicos we're going to pull him from the game more as a precaution because they didn't know the severity & couldn't be assured that more damage wouldn't be done. That was only my impression, based on the brief footage I saw on TV at the time, mind you)
    Last edited by goswannies; 11 September 2016, 06:04 PM.

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    • troyjones2525
      Swans Fanatic!
      • Mar 2008
      • 2908

      #47
      Well its a shame! Looks like at least Nankervis and Laidler are locks next week. The one other question is whether Towers or Cunningham did enough today to push McGlynn and possibly Marsh out also.

      Sad about Tippett but he hasn't set the world alight since returning so hopefully we don't lose all that much

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      • goswannies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3049

        #48
        Originally posted by troyjones2525

        Sad about Tippett but he hasn't set the world alight since returning so hopefully we don't lose all that much
        Part of his value is his presence. He demands a key defender. He creates a contest, which creates opportunity. He frees up Buddy.

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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          #49
          Here's the extra IN for next week, from the AFL website - "Swans rookie Nic Newman was the star in Sunday's Grand Final, winning the Andrew Ireland Medal as best afield and finishing with 35 possessions and two goals."

          Against a very good GWS side, if he'd already played seniors we'd be rushing him in. In this same game all the possible replacements had much inferior games. We shouldn't be in this stupid situation!

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          • robamiee
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2005
            • 688

            #50
            Originally posted by Danzar
            Tippett ruled out - fractured jaw. Duo ruled out - sydneyswans.com.au

            Nankervis is a certainty in my books.

            Good to see that Mills' hammy is minor.
            good reason to ban the 3rd man up..rucks cant protect themselves when they get hit from nowhere..good effort to play on though all game...

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8555

              #51
              On the reserves GF thread they're saying Jones got stretchered off and is doubtful for next week. WTF? He was a perfect 'in'.

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              • mcs
                Travelling Swannie!!
                • Jul 2007
                • 8166

                #52
                Originally posted by stevoswan
                On the reserves GF thread they're saying Jones got stretchered off and is doubtful for next week. WTF? He was a perfect 'in'.
                No chance - was knocked out by a forearm/elbow to the head from Findlayson I think it was. Surely no chance of a recall as concussion will surely rule him out.
                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                • Ocker
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 45

                  #53
                  Went to the neafl final today and thought that Jones, Rose, Cunningham in that order were the best if our possible ins. Newman was at least as good as Jones, but as a rookie will not be considered.

                  Outs are Mills and Tippett, plus I would give up on McGlynn - too many mistakes. Marsh is borderline.

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                  • The Big Cat
                    On the veteran's list
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2356

                    #54
                    Papley and Marsh are rookie elevations at present. Obviously one is a replacement for AJ and the other for Talia. I don't think we could elevate Newman even if we wanted to. I don't think you can bring blokes up unless you have the required minimum game unavailability. Is Reid already on that list?
                    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15970

                      #55
                      It's a moot point as they will not debut a rookie in a final. I agree that Newman deserved a chance this year based on his form but if you chuck him in against the Crows having been used to NEAFL pace all year he is going to struggle
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                      • Industrial Fan
                        Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3318

                        #56
                        What round did Biggs debut in 2013?

                        Just checked he was round 23 2013 and played a few finals. Only precedent I can think of.
                        He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                        • aguy
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 1324

                          #57
                          My changes.

                          Laidler for mills
                          Cunningham for marsh
                          Nankervis for Tippett
                          Towers for mcglynn

                          I think Cunningham has been getting a bad wrap here and has actually been quite useful distributing the ball from defence halfback. Laids adds a bit of hardness down back and can take a tall. Nankervis is obvious is. He also adds a bit of grunt. Towers I think is actually useful as his speed works in tandem with Rohan and they add effectiveness to each other's games.

                          We will see

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                          • ernie koala
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2007
                            • 3251

                            #58
                            OUT : Tippett, Mills, McGlynn

                            IN : Nankervis, Laidler, Rose

                            Emergencies: Cunningham, Richards, Towers
                            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                            • Jewels
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              #59
                              Tippett and Mills definite outs with Jones now unavailable - someone up there hates us!!!

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Jewels
                                Tippett and Mills definite outs with Jones now unavailable - someone up there hates us!!!
                                In the space of 24hrs we've gone from having a near perfect finals campaign to a horror one.

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