2017 pre-season training thread

[56-14]

Was hot, but not extraordinarily hot. Low 30s or so. If they called off training every time the thermometer went above 30 degrees, they'd be struggling to remain competitive.

Liz; Took Bayes30's advice & checked club site.

It shows 37 & that's bloody hot in my terms - nearly 100 on the old scale.

[707]

Correct 10th Feb 4:30

I trust a goodly number of RWO'ers will be there to report (unfiltered) on happenings. Want to hear that Jones played a blinder in midfield, Cameron was the outstanding ruckman and took some contested grabs at FF, Melican showed why he's got a third year on the list, etc, etc

Exciting time of year!

[56-14]

I trust a goodly number of RWO'ers will be there to report (unfiltered) on happenings. Want to hear that Jones played a blinder in midfield, Cameron was the outstanding ruckman and took some contested grabs at FF, Melican showed why he's got a third year on the list, etc, etc

Exciting time of year!

Like your post.

[graemed]

Visited the Monday morning training session this week and everybody was on board apart from Papley, Laidler and possibly Newman.
AJ was running, doing sprints and training with fitness co-ordinator.
Lloyd and Rohan were heading off training track to do rehab in gym.
Sinclair, Allir, Parker, Maibaum, Dawson, Rose and McVeigh were all running lapwork.
Mills was doing lapwork and sprints.
Franklin and Naismith were doing a recycled version of circle work with some top up and first year players.
Everyone else was involved in match simulation training.

Old hands:
Kennedy, Tippett, Rampe, Smith, Grundy and Hannebery were standouts. K Jack left early with what appeared to be a groin strain.

Usual suspects:
Towers was prominent...again, but needs to be more assured in possession, turnovers still his biggest issue.
Reid was outstandng but we all know how prevalent he is to injury so will reserve judgement until end of season.
Robinson, B Jack and Foote were very active and are being used predominantly to carry ball through transition (green top).
Heeney was fantastic. His marking and agility, as well as his dominance in contested play, was inspiring.

New faces:
Darcy Cameron looked match ready and as much as I enjoyed Nankervis' improvement, this bloke looks very likely.
The other standout for me amongst the newbies was Ben Ronke. This guy was very aggressive, has great hands and plays with a similar disposition and attitude as Mills last year.

Point of Interest:
Rampe was standing the No. 1 draft pick Oliver Florent and repeatedly beat him for pace when closing on the ball. This is not meant to be disparaging rather it was fascinating watching them after the contest and how Rampe was talking animatedly to him about where he should run, how he should position himself and other tips. Great entertainment.

[AnnieH]

Is Deano still here?

[Nico]

Thanks for the report graemed. It looks like a number of players are still a bit short on fitness or recovering from something. Good to see Naismith out there and AJ seems to be progressing well. How promising is that. K Jack has a groin problem; hope not. Heeney for the Brownlow? He still is not listed on TAB.com at any odds.

It is 2 months until the first round but lets hope they are all on track within a month. Not happy if some are short of a gallop come round 1.

[56-14]

Visited the Monday morning training session this week and everybody was on board apart from Papley, Laidler and possibly Newman.
AJ was running, doing sprints and training with fitness co-ordinator.
Lloyd and Rohan were heading off training track to do rehab in gym.
Sinclair, Allir, Parker, Maibaum, Dawson, Rose and McVeigh were all running lapwork.
Mills was doing lapwork and sprints.
Franklin and Naismith were doing a recycled version of circle work with some top up and first year players.
Everyone else was involved in match simulation training.

Old hands:
Kennedy, Tippett, Rampe, Smith, Grundy and Hannebery were standouts. K Jack left early with what appeared to be a groin strain.

Usual suspects:
Towers was prominent...again, but needs to be more assured in possession, turnovers still his biggest issue.
Reid was outstandng but we all know how prevalent he is to injury so will reserve judgement until end of season.
Robinson, B Jack and Foote were very active and are being used predominantly to carry ball through transition (green top).
Heeney was fantastic. His marking and agility, as well as his dominance in contested play, was inspiring.

New faces:
Darcy Cameron looked match ready and as much as I enjoyed Nankervis' improvement, this bloke looks very likely.
The other standout for me amongst the newbies was Ben Ronke. This guy was very aggressive, has great hands and plays with a similar disposition and attitude as Mills last year.

Point of Interest:
Rampe was standing the No. 1 draft pick Oliver Florent and repeatedly beat him for pace when closing on the ball. This is not meant to be disparaging rather it was fascinating watching them after the contest and how Rampe was talking animatedly to him about where he should run, how he should position himself and other tips. Great entertainment.

Thanks graemed.

Like = AJ active & AA running.
Concern = Rohan rehab.
Fingers crossed re: Reid.
Thought - maybe training match-up - Ronke v Jones (lol).

Post much appreciated.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Thanks graemed

One comment I'd like to make re Towers or players like him....is that sometimes what we tend to see as a "lack of composure" in attack with the ball is in fact a symptom of another problem

The failure to see all options prior to receiving or winning the ball - they failure to scan and approach the ball on an arc or angle

Ie when approaching the ball the best players have already had a look over both shoulders to check what options they have behind them if nothing in front is on they have other options

Hence the appearance of time and great disposals

Towers tends to ???? line head down at the ball

The options and composure that comes from checking ur blindside well before u gain possession is mind blowing and the execution so much more effective in the main

Towers has a habit of tunnel vision ie see ball get ball which removes his options for delivery

Think sam Mitchell or Gary Ablett and picture the two or three times they check their blind spots before receiving the ball and even more exciting is the fakes both sides of the body that they use without even needing to move from their spot half the time

I remember a great coach (when I was a young fella) got us doing drills looking over both shoulders on the lead or moving into the pack etc and it truly blew my mind and I have used this skill in every sport I have played ie AFL, basketball , soccer etc

Towers and Gazza have tonnes of speed to usually get them selves out of trouble - well in their younger years they relied on this and trusted their speed to get them out of trouble

Hewett, McVeigh, Kennedy, Parker etc are great examples of players that had to develop other ways of making space and executing without speed

Ie doing 75% of the scanning prior to receiving the ball

[Ludwig]

One comment I'd like to make re Towers or players like him....is that sometimes what we tend to see as a "lack of composure" in attack with the ball is in fact a symptom of another problem

The failure to see all options prior to receiving or winning the ball - they failure to scan and approach the ball on an arc or angle

Ie when approaching the ball the best players have already had a look over both shoulders to check what options they have behind them if nothing in front is on they have other options

The options and composure that comes from checking ur blindside well before u gain possession is mind blowing and the execution so much more effective in the main

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Ie doing 75% of the scanning prior to receiving the ball

It sounds good in theory, but in reality Towers will still be scanning while the rest of the world are watching the replay of the opposition goal.

It's just not him. It even takes 2 weeks for his MRI scans to develop.

I wouldn't expect too much. I just want him to tackle. That we be a good start.

[dejavoodoo44]

Thanks for the report graemed. It looks like a number of players are still a bit short on fitness or recovering from something. Good to see Naismith out there and AJ seems to be progressing well. How promising is that. K Jack has a groin problem; hope not. Heeney for the Brownlow? He still is not listed on TAB.com at any odds.

It is 2 months until the first round but lets hope they are all on track within a month. Not happy if some are short of a gallop come round 1.

Had to check: Heeney is at $101 on Sportsbet and $51 on William Hill. Both markets at the moment seem almost random, with wide variation between the two. Of course, $101 for Heeney does seem like a value bet.

[RogueSwan]

Has Laidler injured his arm? Just looking through Instagram and saw this shot with Reg:

https://www.instagram.com/j_laids/

@regyboy and Reggie boy

A photo posted by Jeremy Laidler (@j_laids) on Jan 24, 2017 at 1:05am PST

Unfortunate if it is serious as he may find it hard to get back into the seniors without a full preseason.
He may not be the classiest defender going around but he is committed and doesn't mind a little bit of agro, something we need from time to time.

[dejavoodoo44]

Has Laidler injured his arm? Just looking through Instagram and saw this shot with Reg:

https://www.instagram.com/j_laids/

@regyboy and Reggie boy

A photo posted by Jeremy Laidler (@j_laids) on Jan 24, 2017 at 1:05am PST

Unfortunate if it is serious as he may find it hard to get back into the seniors without a full preseason.
He may not be the classiest defender going around but he is committed and doesn't mind a little bit of agro, something we need from time to time.

Swans website says that it's an arthroscope on a niggling elbow injury and that he'll be on light training for six weeks.

[chuckie]

Thanks graemed

One comment I'd like to make re Towers or players like him....is that sometimes what we tend to see as a "lack of composure" in attack with the ball is in fact a symptom of another problem

The failure to see all options prior to receiving or winning the ball - they failure to scan and approach the ball on an arc or angle

Ie when approaching the ball the best players have already had a look over both shoulders to check what options they have behind them if nothing in front is on they have other options

Hence the appearance of time and great disposals

Towers tends to ?? line head down at the ball

The options and composure that comes from checking ur blindside well before u gain possession is mind blowing and the execution so much more effective in the main

Towers has a habit of tunnel vision ie see ball get ball which removes his options for delivery

Think sam Mitchell or Gary Ablett and picture the two or three times they check their blind spots before receiving the ball and even more exciting is the fakes both sides of the body that they use without even needing to move from their spot half the time

I remember a great coach (when I was a young fella) got us doing drills looking over both shoulders on the lead or moving into the pack etc and it truly blew my mind and I have used this skill in every sport I have played ie AFL, basketball , soccer etc

Towers and Gazza have tonnes of speed to usually get them selves out of trouble - well in their younger years they relied on this and trusted their speed to get them out of trouble

Hewett, McVeigh, Kennedy, Parker etc are great examples of players that had to develop other ways of making space and executing without speed

Ie doing 75% of the scanning prior to receiving the ball

Towers isn't the only one, we have a lot of players that don't either lower or raise their eyes before delivering the ball. How many times do we go to Buddy and Hall before him when they have two blokes on them when there is another player is space 30 metres away. Usually a 15 metre kick to a player in space is better than kicking 50 metres to your gun player in a 50/50 or even worst situation.

[Nico]

Had to check: Heeney is at $101 on Sportsbet and $51 on William Hill. Both markets at the moment seem almost random, with wide variation between the two. Of course, $101 for Heeney does seem like a value bet.

He doesn't show up on TAB Sportsbet.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Hey chuckle good point

What I was alluding to was the scanning 360 degrees prior to receiving the ball so u know ur options before u have the ball when u have miliseconds to make a decision half the time when in traffic

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fantastic to hear buddy super impresssed by oli Florents skills already !!!