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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8177

    Originally posted by 707
    and could have had five majors for the half if he'd kicked straight.
    Well at least we know its Sam Reid out there then....
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      Noticed this piece on the Tigers intra, my bolding -

      With Shaun Hampson consigned to running the boundary on Saturday and erstwhile main ruckman Ivan Magic transitioning to coaching, the job would appear Nankervis' to lose and he looked sharp in the centre and used his mobility to get to contests and make an impact around the ground.

      Mobility, Nankervis? has he suddenly got faster or was the Tiges intra played at slow pace a bit like they played last year?

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        Originally posted by 707
        Noticed this piece on the Tigers intra, my bolding -

        With Shaun Hampson consigned to running the boundary on Saturday and erstwhile main ruckman Ivan Magic transitioning to coaching, the job would appear Nankervis' to lose and he looked sharp in the centre and used his mobility to get to contests and make an impact around the ground.

        Mobility, Nankervis? has he suddenly got faster or was the Tiges intra played at slow pace a bit like they played last year?
        I put it down to Maric's transformation.
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Originally posted by 707
          Noticed this piece on the Tigers intra, my bolding -

          With Shaun Hampson consigned to running the boundary on Saturday and erstwhile main ruckman Ivan Magic transitioning to coaching, the job would appear Nankervis' to lose and he looked sharp in the centre and used his mobility to get to contests and make an impact around the ground.

          Mobility, Nankervis? has he suddenly got faster or was the Tiges intra played at slow pace a bit like they played last year?
          By comparison, Nankervis is very mobile. Their other ruckmen need a wheelchair to get to contests.

          The Tigers are still hurting about losing their greatest ruckman of all time to us, so you have to expect a bit of media hype payback.

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8727

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            By comparison, Nankervis is very mobile. Their other ruckmen need a wheelchair to get to contests.

            The Tigers are still hurting about losing their greatest ruckman of all time to us, so you have to expect a bit of media hype payback.
            I really had to think about that. How soon we forget.

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            • aardvark
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2010
              • 5685

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              The Tigers are still hurting about losing their greatest ruckman of all time to us, so you have to expect a bit of media hype payback.
              Brian "The Whale" Roberts?

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              • 56-14
                Warming the Bench
                • Dec 2015
                • 260

                Originally posted by aardvark
                Brian "The Whale" Roberts?
                +1

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                • Chilcott
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 595

                  Tim Barling???Did we not try and recruit this Richmond Ruckman in the Edelstein era. Come to think of it, I think we had a crack at getting Maurice Rioli. If I'm wrong, ignore this post as I've had a few.

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                  • Bloods05
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1641

                    Originally posted by Chilcott
                    Tim Barling???Did we not try and recruit this Richmond Ruckman in the Edelstein era. Come to think of it, I think we had a crack at getting Maurice Rioli. If I'm wrong, ignore this post as I've had a few.
                    All correct. Barling got an injury and never played again; Rioli was blocked from playing for us because under the rules of the time, we could only recruit a certain number of players (two maybe?) from each club, and we already had our quota from Richmond.

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                    • aardvark
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5685

                      Surely Lud means Graeme Teasdale. Who could forget the brown suit.

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                      • goswannies
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3052

                        Originally posted by Chilcott
                        Tim Barling???Did we not try and recruit this Richmond Ruckman in the Edelstein era. Come to think of it, I think we had a crack at getting Maurice Rioli. If I'm wrong, ignore this post as I've had a few.
                        Originally posted by Bloods05
                        All correct. Barling got an injury and never played again; Rioli was blocked from playing for us because under the rules of the time, we could only recruit a certain number of players (two maybe?) from each club, and we already had our quota from Richmond.
                        Don't think the 2 player quota is right, as we got 3 from Geelong (Toohey, Williams and Bolton - & I think we tried for Bews too). The 2 player thing might've been how many players clubs had to give to the Bears during their foundation.
                        There were a couple of reasons cited for Rioli's failure to transfer:
                        - One is that Richmond failed to clear him.
                        - Another is that Rioli was prevented by the Swans breach of the (at the time) $1.2M salary cap.
                        - Rioli actually signed a contract to play with us in April 86 & players took cuts to fit his salary in the cap. By the end of April the VFL refused a permit for Rioli stating we were still over the cap (insisting on further team-mates pay cuts). In early May 86, a Federal Court order was obtained against the VFL to provide a permit to play for the Swans, however, Sydney were threatened with a $10K fine & loss of premiership points, so they declined to play Rioli. A week later Rioli was released from his Swans contract, clearing his return to Richmond (although he list his #17 with the Tigers, returning to wear #27)
                        - I also vaguely recall a rumour that South Fremantle had a deal with Richmond when they had originally released Rioli to the Tigers, that contributed to his failure to be released.

                        As for the other Richmond players at the time, Barling signed for the 86 season, was injured (knee) and then when finally fit, couldn't play because of salary cap constraints. He was loaned to his original club (Birchip), with the intention of playing with the Swans in 87. An ACL reconstruction prevented that but he he did eventually debute for us in 89 (5 games) and a further 8 games again in 90.

                        A third player we attempted to recruit at the time from Richmond was Stephen James. He had reportedly signed with the Swans but was released in early Jan 86 & resumed with the Tigers.
                        Last edited by goswannies; 11 February 2017, 11:27 PM.

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                        • goswannies
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3052

                          How times have changed. Buddy's current salary would have left room for a couple of Rookies in 86!
                          Last edited by goswannies; 11 February 2017, 11:53 PM.

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                          • 56-14
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Dec 2015
                            • 260

                            Originally posted by aardvark
                            Surely Lud means Graeme Teasdale. Who could forget the brown suit.
                            I think Ludwig may have been referring to "Bo" Derickx.

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                            • aardvark
                              Veterans List
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5685

                              Originally posted by 56-14
                              I think Ludwig may have been referring to "Bo" Derickx.
                              Who?

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                              • Velour&Ruffles
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 903

                                Originally posted by aardvark
                                Surely Lud means Graeme Teasdale. Who could forget the brown suit.
                                Certainly not me!
                                My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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