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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    Originally posted by The Big Cat
    Draft tampering! what about the West Coast recruiting Darling after he was in trouble with police just before the draft in western Australia. what a coincidence
    I think every side has done some tampering. I remember in the 1990s that Adelaide crows use to hid away promising SA recruits from the draft process so they could slowly add them to their list. I remember when in 1988 the Swans tampered with the draft picks and gave away Wayne Carey for $45,000 and John Longmire for $10,000 to North Melbourne. OK ! guess we were not very good at tampering!! LOL

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    • S.S. Bleeder
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2014
      • 2165

      Originally posted by Vonsteinman
      I know a number of people who went to Scotch College and I've also met Cyril a number of times and know his father very well. If it wasn't for the fact that your comment is so off base that it can be dismissed as laughable, then it would be offensive.
      Regardless of the differences in opinion between your friends and mine, do you think it is acceptable for a player to refuse to play for an interstate team? NO, it isn't. It is in fact a breach of the rules. IMO, any player who does that has no integrity, as it flies in the face of the integrity of the game.

      As for his scholarship. He was given an indigenous scholarship at Scotch. There were many, many more suitable candidates, of all colours, than him at the time. He WASgiven a scholarship ahead of others based on his skin colour. That's a fact. If you don't like that then you should be critical of those who promote reverse discrimation.

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      • S.S. Bleeder
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 2165

        Originally posted by Boddo
        Tanked his interviews n his tests. He basically knew he would end up at Hawthorn. Hawthorn knew it wasn't a gamble they was in on the scam. Draft tampering at its best.
        +1. Anyone with any inside knowledge knows that this occurred. Even Hawthorn supporters admit it.

        Many people of here don't like to hear anyone criticise indigenous players regardless of whether they deserve it or not. The truth hurts.
        Last edited by S.S. Bleeder; 6 September 2017, 08:50 PM.

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        • S.S. Bleeder
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 2165

          Originally posted by KTigers
          On "Open Mike" last night, Dustin Fletcher recounted a funny story re the time at the SCG Plugger put him over the fence, and in
          the crowd nearby were the teenaged Mark & Jarrad McVeigh who gave him a spray for his troubles.
          Can't see them there? Were they wearing ponytails?
          Flashback- Dustin Fletcher Goes Into The Crowd - YouTube

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4048

            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
            Regardless of the differences in opinion between your friends and mine, do you think it is acceptable for a player to refuse to play for an interstate team? NO, it isn't. It is in fact a breach of the rules. IMO, any player who does that has no integrity, as it flies in the face of the integrity of the game.

            As for his scholarship. He was given an indigenous scholarship at Scotch. There were many, many more suitable candidates, of all colours, than him at the time. He WASgiven a scholarship ahead of others based on his skin colour. That's a fact. If you don't like that then you should be critical of those who promote reverse discrimation.
            Are you suggesting he wasn't worthy because there were better footballers than him or people more academically gifted or people less well off? Not sure what you are driving at.

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            • Vonsteinman
              Warming the Bench
              • Sep 2008
              • 366

              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
              Regardless of the differences in opinion between your friends and mine, do you think it is acceptable for a player to refuse to play for an interstate team? NO, it isn't. It is in fact a breach of the rules. IMO, any player who does that has no integrity, as it flies in the face of the integrity of the game.

              As for his scholarship. He was given an indigenous scholarship at Scotch. There were many, many more suitable candidates, of all colours, than him at the time. He WASgiven a scholarship ahead of others based on his skin colour. That's a fact. If you don't like that then you should be critical of those who promote reverse discrimation.
              If your intent with this response is to re-affirm my conviction that you are confused and well wide of the mark on this one, congratulations you have succeeded.

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              • S.S. Bleeder
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 2165

                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                Are you suggesting he wasn't worthy because there were better footballers than him or people more academically gifted or people less well off? Not sure what you are driving at.
                He got the scholarship at the age of 14. At the time there were many more kids in front of him based on football ability who would have loved, and possibly flourished in, an opportunity like this. I'm not referring to his academic ability at all because it was purely based on his football ability and that he was indigenous. His surname probably helped a lot too.

                I find discrimination wrong on all counts. This also includes reverse discrimation which some people think is acceptable which is extremely hypocritical of them.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16770

                  Originally posted by Vonsteinman
                  If your intent with this response is to re-affirm my conviction that you are confused and well wide of the mark on this one, congratulations you have succeeded.
                  This topic of conversation (which has nothing to do with the thread topic) is threatening to derail the thread.

                  It's fine for the conversation to continue (subject to adherence to the normal RWO posting guidelines) but if anyone wishes to do so, please take it over to the Open Chat forum. Here's a link.

                  RWO - RedAndWhiteOnline.com

                  If there is appetite to continue this discussion, as evidenced by someone starting a new thread in Open Chat, I will make the time to redirect the relevant posts already made in this thread. If not, I'll leave them here.

                  However any further posts from this point on this topic (or any other clearly off-topic subject) will be deleted (as "off topic).

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Thanks Liz

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8555

                      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                      Can't see them there? Were they wearing ponytails?
                      Flashback- Dustin Fletcher Goes Into The Crowd - YouTube
                      I reckon it's the two guys on the left, one with a grey trackie top with a cap (Jarryd) and the guy next to him but closer to Fletcher with the dark sports coat and a torrent of abuse to go with it (Mark), my only doubt is he might not look enough like a teenager. They do resemble the brothers McVeigh though.

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        It looks like Stringer is going to be up for trade. Apparently, he hasn't been happy since his relegation to the VFL last year. At his best he would be a great recruit for us. Unfortunately, I don't think he has the correct attitude to fit into our culture. Our players are held accountable and unless he improved his defensive pressure and attitude he'd end up in the NEAFL.

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11339

                          Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                          It looks like Stringer is going to be up for trade. Apparently, he hasn't been happy since his relegation to the VFL last year. At his best he would be a great recruit for us. Unfortunately, I don't think he has the correct attitude to fit into our culture. Our players are held accountable and unless he improved his defensive pressure and attitude he'd end up in the NEAFL.
                          Might be just what he needs. But we don't want a sook who thinks he gets a game regardless of form.

                          "The Package"......that's one catch cry of BT's that didn't come to fruition.

                          The Pies will pick him up.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • mattybloods
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 482

                            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                            It looks like Stringer is going to be up for trade. Apparently, he hasn't been happy since his relegation to the VFL last year. At his best he would be a great recruit for us. Unfortunately, I don't think he has the correct attitude to fit into our culture. Our players are held accountable and unless he improved his defensive pressure and attitude he'd end up in the NEAFL.
                            Plus Stringer has a young kid living in Melbourne so unlikely to want to move interstate

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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8623

                              Originally posted by Nico
                              Might be just what he needs. But we don't want a sook who thinks he gets a game regardless of form.

                              "The Package"......that's one catch cry of BT's that didn't come to fruition.

                              The Pies will pick him up.
                              Yes, "the package" would probably come with a few strings attached.

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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                                Yes, "the package" would probably come with a few strings attached.
                                You'd have to think St Kilda would be tempted to part with one of their first rounders for him

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