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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Originally posted by Southern Swan15
    Would like to see us look at jack watts. Get him into a team where he isnt looked to be the game breaker and he could flourish. The bloke can play just think he has too much expectation at the Ds. Dont know what melbourne would want as compo but surly we can make the deal work.

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    Did you just say a Rohan / Watts trade?

    I like it!

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Originally posted by Boddo
      On Rose you'd be delisting a player who most likely wouldn't make it to the rookie draft to be picked up by us. He'd get picked up as a delisted free agent at another club as I'd take him over any fourth round pick in this draft. The rules for the rookie list were released when the cba was signed.


      Everything you need to know about the AFL's new CBA | The Roar
      I don't think Rose would get picked up by another club, but usually if a club says it is delisting a contracted player with the intent to redraft them as a rookie, other clubs don't interfere. It's happened several times before. Even if he was taken by another club, no great loss. He will struggle to get a spot next year anyway and will likely be delisted then.

      I know the new rules were released on an informal basis, but I haven't seen the actual new CBA. There are still some open items, including new Free Agency rules.

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        Originally posted by chammond
        According to the Swans website, Melican is still a rookie. Why would he be upgraded? Surely best to leave him where he is and take 4 ND picks?
        Because he is in our best 22 and we don't want to lose him....

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Originally posted by chammond
          According to the Swans website, Melican is still a rookie. Why would he be upgraded? Surely best to leave him where he is and take 4 ND picks?
          We can only have one third year rookie, so 2 of Melican, Murray and O'Riordan need to get upgraded or delisted. It's not necessarily better to take 4 ND picks since ND picks get 2 year contracts. By the 3rd round there might not be anyone worth a 2 year contract. Upgrading a currently listed rookie to open another rookie spot might make more sense.

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          • Mug Punter
            On the Rookie List
            • Nov 2009
            • 3325

            Originally posted by Boddo
            An upgrade of Marsh n pick 50 for pick 40 id be happy with. N I think they would. I don't think they'd go the straight swap of Marsh for 40.
            Exactly the trade I was thinking of

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            • Boddo
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 1049

              Originally posted by chammond
              According to the Swans website, Melican is still a rookie. Why would he be upgraded? Surely best to leave him where he is and take 4 ND picks?
              He signed a contract till 2020. He's on the senior list

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              • Boddo
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2017
                • 1049

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                I don't think Rose would get picked up by another club, but usually if a club says it is delisting a contracted player with the intent to redraft them as a rookie, other clubs don't interfere. It's happened several times before. Even if he was taken by another club, no great loss. He will struggle to get a spot next year anyway and will likely be delisted then.

                I know the new rules were released on an informal basis, but I haven't seen the actual new CBA. There are still some open items, including new Free Agency rules.
                Fair enough if that's what you think. I just disagree n I think he'd be picked up. Perfect for Norf, freo, Carlton or Brisbane for free. i agree if things don't change next year he's gone. Take him every day of the week over say pick 50. That's the rules formally


                No different to the link I gave you.


                Here's the dates of everything list n draft wise

                Tuesday October 3 ? Friday October 6 ? NAB AFL Draft Combine

                Friday October 6 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

                Monday October 9, 9am* - NAB AFL Trade Period begins

                Saturday October 14 - South Australian Draft Combine

                Sunday October 15 - West Australian Draft Combine

                Sunday October 15, 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

                Wednesday October 18 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

                Thursday October 19, 2pm ? NAB AFL Trade Period closes

                Tuesday 31 October, 2pm - List Lodgement 1

                Tuesday 31 October, 2pm - Nomination of Draft Eligible Father/Son Players and Northern & NGA Academy Players Lodged

                Wednesday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

                Wednesday November 8 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

                Thursday 9 November, 2pm - List Lodgement 2

                Friday November 10 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

                Friday November 17, 5pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

                Friday November 24 - NAB AFL Draft, Sydney.

                Saturday November 25 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

                Sunday November 26, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

                Monday 27 November, 12pm - List Lodgement 3

                Monday November 27, 5pm - NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie Drafts

                Wednesday November 29, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

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                • Boddo
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 1049

                  Originally posted by Mug Punter
                  Exactly the trade I was thinking of
                  It's the only way I'd take 3 picks. You could basically change Marsh for any other depth player Rose, Foote etc n I believe it only works because it's such a shallow draft

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Thanks Boddo. I was looking for that. Don't know why I couldn't find it.


                    PS: A quick glance and I see the LTIL has been dropped from 8 to 6 weeks.
                    Last edited by Ludwig; 22 September 2017, 06:57 PM.

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                    • Boddo
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 1049

                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      Thanks Boddo. I was looking for that. Don't know why I couldn't find it.
                      It's like most things with rules. It's getting harder n harder to find.

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                      • chammond
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1368

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        We can only have one third year rookie, so 2 of Melican, Murray and O'Riordan need to get upgraded or delisted. It's not necessarily better to take 4 ND picks since ND picks get 2 year contracts. By the 3rd round there might not be anyone worth a 2 year contract. Upgrading a currently listed rookie to open another rookie spot might make more sense.
                        Aha! Some real news.

                        Thank you. Much appreciated.

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                        • Industrial Fan
                          Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 3317

                          The club has lost the plot, can't believe those delistings, especially Talia ????
                          He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2350

                            Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                            The club has lost the plot, can't believe those delistings, especially Talia ????
                            Every bird expert will tell you - "You don't @@@@@ in a Swans nest!"
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • Boddo
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1049

                              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
                              The club has lost the plot, can't believe those delistings, especially Talia ????
                              The rules say clubs have to delist 3 players to open up 3 spots on the list. Who else should have be delisted instead?

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                              • Boddo
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 1049

                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                Thanks Boddo. I was looking for that. Don't know why I couldn't find it.


                                PS: A quick glance and I see the LTIL has been dropped from 8 to 6 weeks.
                                Yeh good idea I thought when I first saw it as i believe that most people would agree 6 weeks is a long term injury. It only applies to cat B rookies to allow them to play as cat A can play anytime now.

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