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  • rb4x
    Regular in the Side
    • Dec 2007
    • 968

    I find it hard to believe that we gave away pick 70 in the Murray deal if we are going to take four picks. Only logical answer to AJ delisting is that we will take a DFA or upgrade a rookie. Can not see any DFA that would replace a player in our best 22 or any need to upgrade a rookie as Cat A rookies can be selected. Only conclusion is that O'Riordan is going from cat B to primary list. Alternative answer is Fox is being upgraded. Do not see the need for either as O'Riordan could be upgraded to Cat A and be available for selection and Fox was already available for selection. Both had injury affected year and in my view neither are yet ready for primary list.
    Last edited by rb4x; 31 October 2017, 07:42 PM.

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    • caj23
      Senior Player
      • Aug 2003
      • 2462

      Originally posted by rb4x
      I find it hard to believe that we gave away pick 70 in the Murray deal if we are going to take four picks. Only logical answer to AJ delisting is that we will take a DFA or upgrade a rookie. Can not see any DFA that would replace a player in our best 22 or any need to upgrade a rookie as Cat A rookies can be selected. Only conclusion is that O'Riordan is going from cat B to primary list. Alternative answer is Fox is being upgraded. Do not see the need for either as O'Riordan could be upgraded to Cat A and be available for selection and Fox was already available for selection. Both had injury affected year and in my view neither are yet ready for primary list.
      Not sure what the thought process is but giving away 70 is neither here nor there, most clubs are passing by then anyway

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      • waswan
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2015
        • 2047

        Melican/Alir/Grundy/Rampe.....even if AJ gets back to a level worthy of playing seniors, which is a big if, who is he going to dislodge ?

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          Originally posted by waswan
          Melican/Alir/Grundy/Rampe.....even if AJ gets back to a level worthy of playing seniors, which is a big if, who is he going to dislodge ?
          If he can get back to where he was, probably Grundy in 1-2 years or Melican or Allir. It was some time ago, but he was a pretty good player.
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • S.S. Bleeder
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 2165

            Originally posted by MattW
            That 'team balance' reference in the article on the Swans site was not a direct quote and it didn't bear any resemblance to the direct quotes. It's a bit odd.

            I thought the medical and conditioning assessment might be more telling.
            It said team balance but I read it as list balance. I'm surprised they mentioned that being rookie listed would be conditional upon his medical. I would have thought they would know that already, assuming that he was being frequently examined and scanned throughout the season.

            It would be a real shame for him to get dropped now after finally being able to get on the park. I'm also surprised that he's being moved to the rookie list now when he wasn't last year. They even gave him the no.2 jumper.

            The sad fact is that the chances of him getting back to good form is highly unlikely. Maybe the club realises this.

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            Originally posted by Ludwig
            You mean that Trump really isn't the leader of the free world. I feel better now.
            That's not necessary Ludwig. The sand pit it that way ->.

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            • Bloods05
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2008
              • 1641

              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder

              - - - Updated - - -



              That's not necessary Ludwig. The sand pit it that way ->.
              Oh please oh please don't tell me we have a Trumpster in our midst, I couldn't bear it.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8545

                Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                If he can get back to where he was, probably Grundy in 1-2 years or Melican or Allir. It was some time ago, but he was a pretty good player.
                I remember after the 2012 GF being so excited at 'this kids' potential after his flawless display in that game, believing we had a future champion that would be a stalwart of our backline for years to come......when he did his knee the first time, I thought, 'bummer' but he'll be back next year........gee, it's been a disaster for him and the club. He has already been robbed of a glorious career but to not make it back all to senior level would be a tragedy. I fear he may not.....and while it would make his future viewing of that great day in 2012 bittersweet indeed, he will treasure it even more. The best of luck to him!

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8545

                  Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder





                  That's not necessary Ludwig. The sand pit it that way ->.
                  Actually, I think they've installed a sandpit in the White House......along with lots of blocks and crayons and a Jumping Castle!!!

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    Admitting you like Trump is like admitting you are an atheist 20 years ago.
                    Shunned and shamed for having a different opinion.
                    I'm not a fan, but it annoys me that those who are, are ridiculed for being so.

                    If you ask me, Daniel Andrews is far more incompetent and destructive than Trump.

                    Back on topic, it was always unlikely that AJ would run out with the seniors after so many years not playing.
                    Injuries seem the only was he'll get a run.

                    Regardless of what happens from here, the Swans have acted immaculately in their support of him. Over and above.
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4040

                      Originally posted by stevoswan
                      I remember after the 2012 GF being so excited at 'this kids' potential after his flawless display in that game, believing we had a future champion that would be a stalwart of our backline for years to come......when he did his knee the first time, I thought, 'bummer' but he'll be back next year........gee, it's been a disaster for him and the club. He has already been robbed of a glorious career but to not make it back all to senior level would be a tragedy. I fear he may not.....and while it would make his future viewing of that great day in 2012 bittersweet indeed, he will treasure it even more. The best of luck to him!
                      Didn't miss a beat in the two years that he played. Was rarely beaten and fiercely competitive. Inspirational player. Hard to swallow the fact that he won't be back in the seniors. Hope I'm wrong but it's looking very tough given everything.

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
                        Veterans List
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6474

                        Lochie O’Brien – AFL Draft Central
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • Cosmic Psycho
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 22

                          Pretty good piece on Jack Higgins today. Thoughts on a small forward with potential to move into mids?

                          Jack Higgins – AFL Draft Central

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                          • barracuda
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 551

                            Does anyone know which academy kids the swans nominated for the draft?

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                            • mattybloods
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 482

                              Originally posted by Cosmic Psycho
                              Pretty good piece on Jack Higgins today. Thoughts on a small forward with potential to move into mids?

                              Jack Higgins ? AFL Draft Central
                              Sounds like Papley 2.0

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                              • Bloods05
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1641

                                Originally posted by CureTheSane
                                Admitting you like Trump is like admitting you are an atheist 20 years ago.

                                If you ask me, Daniel Andrews is far more incompetent and destructive than Trump.
                                Jeez I'm glad I didn't ask you. Daniel Andrews. Donald Trump. Please.

                                A more apposite comparison with Trump supporters is that with creationists. Not just 20 years ago. Ever.

                                FWIW, I'm optimistic AJ can get back slowly, through the rookie list pathway. Another year in the ressies maybe.

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