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The whole point is that 'main list' players aren't treated the same either. It's a sliding scale and the rookies are a little further along the scale than the late ND picks.
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Cat A rookies now are basically 'main listed' players now. They are rookies by name only. Your point is 100% correct for Cat B rookies imo. And your point about 'main listed' players not getting treated the same is true and that's why I have said several times Cat A rookies should be treated as round 6 draftees and be getting paid what they get paid per year.Comment
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I'll also say this was an opportunity for a win- win for club and rookie. ATM you can only retain 3 of your 6 Cat A rookies at the end of each year. If for example they are added to the 'main list' if you see potential in more than 3 of them you can retain 4,5 or 6 of them. The TPP went up by 20% giving clubs plenty of spare money for them to be added to the 'main list'.
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Maybe we can agree to disagree on what rookies should be paid and return the thread to hypotheticals in the trade period and drafts?
Just saying because no amount of argument from either side is going to change minds nor will it change what is actually happening to pay rates, they are what they are.
So, back to working out how we get Dustin Martin to the Swans .......Comment
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Well it has been a week and neither Jones or Reid has signed and no signs of a change. There is no extra or new money to allocate to either. We might lose both but most likely getting just one, but which one?
On the basis that McVeigh will retire (maybe) or I don't think we have any others and only delists of players on minimal wages.
The only other option I can think of (to get both to sign) is to trade a player on reasonable money and reallocate some of that to Reid and Jones but who... (not Tippett, too easy)
This might be the year were we lose 2 (premier) like players.Comment
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Martin yes, Fyfe no for me.
It could be one of them but not both ins but that would mean both Reid and Jones gone.
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They might be bringing a player in but Reid and Jones are not signed.
Reid and our first pick to Richmond for Martin or the same to Freo for Fyfe.
Martin kicks goals. Fyfe doesn't.
It would rather keep both SR and ZJ.
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You are dreaming. And we don't want Martin or Fyfe. We have ample midfield depth and enough money tied up there too: JPK, Hanners, Parker, Heeney, Mills, Jack, Jones (if he re-signs) plus all the others that go through the middle. If we have that much money we need a KPP. I'd rather get May. For a more low profile and gettable target I'd be thinking about Finlayson. It also depends on how our many KPDs go over the balance of the season: Aliir, Talia, Maibaum, AJ. We have a few options but none of them are bashing the door down to be Reg's replacement at the moment. Aliir has wasted this season (can't believe we're at round 15 already!) and while I still hope and expect he has a future it looks less certain than at the end of last season. Don't know what is happening with Talia. Maibaum is only first year and he's still got time to show something. AJ needs to show something before the end of the season (at least play Reserves) else it is hard to justify keeping him on our list yet another year - I certainly hope he does! Will be a highlight for the year right up there with the finish over the Bombers. I'm casting my mind over KPFs to think who might be gettable and worth getting - Hogan isn't available now but I wonder if there's any chance we could get him when his contract finishes. We'd have to make a godfather offer that we probably can't afford. Our situation isn't desperate but it would be more desperate if we lose Reid. Then, if Buddy gets injured, we're very light on for tall forwards. I am a big fan of Pink but he's only 18 years old and it's too soon to know if he's going to make it.All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)Comment
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You know what, none of us have any idea how contracts are structured except for Franklin's. None of us know whether any of the contracts of re-signed stars are for fixed amounts per year or % of total cap per year, fixed amounts plus whatever the % increase per year was decided on, etc etc so really we are just wasting keyboard strokes speculating.
What we do know is that this club has been very astute in managing players contracts in the past and no doubt is right now doing the same. We lost Mumford only because of the unexpected and highly fortuitous Buddy landing in our lap, we were prepared to lose Mitchell to change the midfield mix and to get another first round pick and free up some cap space. I say again, our club has been very astute.
What we do know is that the club continues to sign new contracts for players important to our future.
What we do know is that before the trade period last year clubs were told to budget for a $1mill increase in salary cap for 2017.
What we do know is that the cap actually increased $1mill more than that which was budgeted for in 2017 and going forward. That should give us and every other club a War Chest or wriggle room. On that basis I can't see us not being able to afford Jones and Reid providing one or both don't get "Godfather" contract offers from south of the border, then prudence kicks in, as does a Band 1 compo pick.
So I for one am prepared to stop speculating and just trust the club to make the correct contract decisions going forward, be that new contracts or extra first round picks.Comment
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707.
Do you want Reid and Jones signed?
The club runs the club. As fans we can an opinion that is in conflict with the clubs decisions and talk about it.
E.g. I dont rate rucks. As long as they compete in the air and ground balls and tackles that would do me.
But the idea that the club is perfect is a very interesting view of life and that you dont wont anyone to challenge anything.
If you want to tell people to not talk about the club you should leave RWO then, its pointless. It a forum for other peoples comments.
Reid is RFA.
Jones is just a trade.
My bad. You just dont wont to speculate any further. Fair comment.
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