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  • snajik
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1115

    Originally posted by Plugger1300
    the needs - goal kicking midfielder
    Not to be mistaken from a midfielder that goes forward

    Another classy kicker
    The MCG highlights our inability to pierce through defences.

    Watts could be this guy. We have an impeccable record of turning this type of player around
    Might be worth looking at Trent Mackenzie as well
    Huge kick of the footy. I'm told that the suns have really stifled his game style
    I agree. I think he could be a great pick up. He?s a bit inconsistent and a little injury prone, but that should mean we wouldn?t have to give up a lot for him. His 60 metre pinpoint kicks could be a huge asset on the SCG. He?d be playing in a team where he?d be getting more ball, and could be deadly on a wing or a HBF. And we all know how good Sydney is at resurrecting careers. More interested in going to Melbourne though apparently.
    It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
    The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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    • snajik
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1115

      Originally posted by Cainit
      Am i missing something with Towers. All year he's probably amassed a quarter of desent footy combined. He is simply crap and should be traded or delisted.
      Um, yes. You are missing something.
      It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
      The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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      • Cainit
        On the Rookie List
        • Jul 2017
        • 42

        Sydney did well playing one man down all year carrying Towers. And anyone who think he has any value A -didn't watch the games or B- has never played the game. If he was a vegetable he would be the common brown spud.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          It's being reported that Jake Lever has agreed to a 4 year deal with Melbourne at 1 Million a year. He's a good player, but that's outrageous for a 21 yo, even given the increase in the salary cap. Melbourne have a lot of good young talent on their list and this will set a precedent that will be difficult to sustain when they are looking to re-sign Hogan, Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, etc.

          I would be happy to stay out of this high priced meat market for a while and think we are in a good position to go with organic growth for now. Our recruiters have done well over the past 5 years, picking up around 4 quality players with every draft. That's a really good result for keeping the team in a sustained run at the top 4. We have a group of young regulars like Heeney, Mills, Jones, Hewett and Papley who still have plenty of upside in them and some excellent prospects that didn't make the cut in the last game of the season.

          I'll back our recruiters to find a few good young players again this year.


          PS: Trent McKenzie is a dumb footballer. It doesn't matter how far he can kick the ball, he simply makes far too many mistakes. We have many better options for HB at the club.
          Last edited by Ludwig; 3 October 2017, 07:09 PM.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16742

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            It's being reported that Jake Lever has agreed to a 4 year deal with Melbourne at 1 Million a year. He's a good player, but that's outrageous for a 21 yo, even given the increase in the salary cap. Melbourne have a lot of good young talent on their list and this will set a precedent that will be difficult to sustain when they are looking to re-sign Hogan, Gawn, Petracca, Oliver, Viney, etc.
            It is a lot of money, though North reportedly offered more to Kelly, and there were even suggestions a year or so ago that they (ie North) had offered Heeney something not far off $1m per year, and that was before the bonus rise in salary cap that clubs got this year.

            I do think we're lucky that all our key players are signed up, most for the next few seasons, and also that we don't have any gaping holes in our list that mean we have to go after established players to remain in contention. The draft plus organic growth from the core of quality younger players already established in the senior team should suffice in the short term. There are going to be lots of crazy deals thrown at players over the next season or two while clubs work out what to spend their bonus dollars on, and in the meantime chase a small pool of available, quality players.

            PS Definitely agree with you re McKenzie. We already have many posters on here who complain about a tendency for the team to kick the ball long, rather than accurately. I am not sure their disposition would be improved by the recruitment of a player whose only apparent asset is his ability to kick the ball long.

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16742

              Originally posted by waswan
              The most frustrating part of all this is how @@@@ing obvious it is
              Wake up coaching panel
              I think you're being a little unfair on the coaching panel.

              For the middle part of the season, the team did play with one ruckman - Naismith. Sinclair and Tippett both found themselves in the NEAFL side (when Tippett wasn't in the rehab room, that is). When Naismith got injured, both Sinclair and Tippett returned but I reckon that is because the coaches didn't think either could ruck on his own. Once Naismith returned late in the season, they very quickly reverted to the one ruckman structure. Sinclair stayed in the team but he was played as a forward, with barely any time in the ruck. Against the Saints and Bombers he showed he could be an effective forward but against stronger defences and with the midfield battling, he struggled. He did ruck a bit in the SF but only when the coaches were throwing players all over the ground (eg Mills into the middle, McVeigh forward, Rohan / Reid back) to see if they could do anything to spark the team to function better.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                Originally posted by Cainit
                Sydney did well playing one man down all year carrying Towers. And anyone who think he has any value A -didn't watch the games or B- has never played the game. If he was a vegetable he would be the common brown spud.
                I don't think you've seen a game since 2016.

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                • Legs Akimbo
                  Grand Poobah
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 2809

                  I thought he had his best season to date and played a role. I think his efforts set the tone for the team during our winning streak. ...and yes he has an uncommon ability to stuff things up. Probs always will.
                  He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8546

                    Originally posted by Cainit
                    Sydney did well playing one man down all year carrying Towers. And anyone who think he has any value A -didn't watch the games or B- has never played the game. If he was a vegetable he would be the common brown spud.
                    Wow.....not even going there.

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                    • AnnieH
                      RWOs Black Sheep
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11332

                      Originally posted by Cainit
                      Sydney did well playing one man down all year carrying Towers. And anyone who think he has any value A -didn't watch the games or B- has never played the game. If he was a vegetable he would be the common brown spud.
                      Seriously?
                      I think Towers did great. He did what the coaches asked him to do, and did it well.
                      Sure, he had a few stuff ups... Hanners had 20 possessions in our last game with ONE effective disposal.
                      Explain yourself out of that one!!
                      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                      • Swansongster
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1264

                        Originally posted by Cainit
                        Sydney did well playing one man down all year carrying Towers. And anyone who think he has any value A -didn't watch the games or B- has never played the game. If he was a vegetable he would be the common brown spud.
                        Towers ain't going nowhere. He is in the 22 best players at the club for mine. The fact that the coaches seem to agree with me only enbiggens my belief on this matter.

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11330

                          Originally posted by AnnieH
                          Seriously?
                          I think Towers did great. He did what the coaches asked him to do, and did it well.
                          Sure, he had a few stuff ups... Hanners had 20 possessions in our last game with ONE effective disposal.
                          Explain yourself out of that one!!
                          Agree on Towers, that is why he kept his spot. But will he be the best for that role in 2018 or will he be in our best 22.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • caj23
                            Senior Player
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 2462

                            Towers is our 2nd ruckman, not going anywhere!!

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                            • swansrob
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2009
                              • 1265

                              Originally posted by liz
                              It is a lot of money, though North reportedly offered more to Kelly, and there were even suggestions a year or so ago that they (ie North) had offered Heeney something not far off $1m per year, and that was before the bonus rise in salary cap that clubs got this year.
                              They offered similar to Hanners as well

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                              • S.S. Bleeder
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2165

                                Originally posted by caj23
                                Towers is our 2nd ruckman, not going anywhere!!
                                Never been a fan but if we go down that path, which we should, he'll be more important than ever.

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