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  • Markwebbos
    Veterans List
    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Originally posted by wolftone57
    have you listened to any of the conversation during the year by the rucks. naismith and Tippett both said that they get together, a ruck club if you wish, every week for a catch up and coffee or lunch (Tippo normally pays according to Big Sammy 'cos he earns the big bucks). Obviously with the season finished it is a beer instead.
    Farewelling Tippo surely

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Originally posted by stevoswan
      I agree with this wolftone....which makes your earlier idea that replacing Towers with Watts would make us faster (admittedly you added speedy Saad to the mix as well), somewhat perplexing. Towers is quicker than Watts and his career is on an upward trajectory at the moment. Do we really want to stall his progress yet again?
      It's hard to believe that Towers is a year older than Watts, yet is still on an upward trajectory.

      Originally posted by ugg
      Tippett would make little sense for the Suns as they have a number of injury-prone key position players/rucks as it it. On second thoughts, that may mean he fits in perfectly.
      They have a pretty strong KPP group, especially with Sam Day returning from injury next year. Witts had a pretty good season in the ruck and all 3 of their key forwards, particularly Peter Wright, can play in the ruck. I don't know who would be interested in Tippett, except perhaps Richmond or Melbourne. Sinclair may be easier to move on, being younger and on a lower salary.

      Originally posted by wolftone57
      According to the Rookie rules we can keep them both on the rookie List for another year as they are only two year rookies. They can have three years. We need to upgrade Melican, Edwards has retired so we get two vacant Rookie spots already. toby will not be upgraded so he automatically takes one spot. Ronke, Murray, Fisher, Fox and O'Riordan are all vying to be upgraded. Murray and O'Riordan have the most chance due to being here the longest. Murray would be a really good upgrade but we would probably need to downgrade someone. AJ or Rose come to mind. Although we might just trade Harry out to Suns.
      For some reason I thought we were limited to one 3rd year rookie, but I can't find this in the rules. It was just something I thought was discussed here, so I could easily be mistaken. Meg is usually the expert on the rules, so maybe she can weigh in on this. Sorry if I misled anyone.

      There's no particular reason to upgrade Cat A rookies now that they are eligible to play senior footy. So the elevation of rookies is more pertinent to the Cat B rookies. I have been impressed with Murray's progress these past 2 years, but feel he still needs to refine his game more before he's ready for senior footy. Although O'Riordan had an up and down year, he's 2 years older than Murray and has a more AFL ready game. I feel with an injury free pre-season he could be ready for some senior footy next year. We may want to open a Cat B spot for one of our Academy players. I can't see any of them getting a bid in the ND. The other Cat B rookie, Sam Fisher, looks the best of new rookies from last year's draft, but no harm in leaving him to develop another season in the reserves.
      Last edited by Ludwig; 6 October 2017, 06:35 PM.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8546

        Originally posted by Ludwig
        It's hard to believe that Towers is a year older than Watts, yet is still on an upward trajectory.
        Yeah, I should have added the word 'finally'! Actually, that age difference surprises me, I had no idea Dean was older. Definitely a late bloomer.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11330

          Ludwig The Predictor take note: after the Awards Night I doubt Sinkers will be going anywhere in the near future.

          I would like to respectfully ask; is your role model Nostradamus, Confucius or Buddha.
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          • grarmy
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2010
            • 406

            His role model is Mr Ed, the talking horse.
            "Play like you can’t lose."

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by grarmy
              His role model is Mr Ed, the talking horse.
              Yeah! That horse was really smart. How did he do that?

              When Sinkers won that award, the first thing that came to mind was: This will really increase his trade value.

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              • Doctor
                Bay 29
                • Sep 2003
                • 2757

                Originally posted by liz
                Further to the comments earlier in this thread about how Melbourne are dealing with "the Jack Watts situation", I read on afl.com.au today that Adelaide have told Jake Lever NOT to attend their best and fairest count. (The article doesn't comment on whether Cameron - who's still contracted but expressing a desire to leave, in contrast to the out-of-contract Lever - has also been uninvited.

                It's not the first time that clubs have done this to players who've indicated they're leaving but I find it really pathetic and childish. The B&F dinner, for any club, is meant to be about celebrating the season just past. Even though Adelaide will be disappointed in how it ended, they had a pretty damn good season. They are a club that's picked themselves up from a terrible tragedy just a couple of years ago, put it behind them, and improved immensely. Lever's been an important part of all of this. Why wouldn't they want to part on good terms, and help Lever remember his time with Adelaide with fondness, not burn all the bridges as he leaves the building?

                I struggle to think of any player who has left the Swans in recent times who's been treated like this, or even had a word of criticism from the club said in a public arena. Maybe, if you go back to the days of Grant and Rocca there might have been some frustration aired, but that was more about how hard it was for a non-Victorian club to retain out of state players rather than personal comments about the players themselves. And I remember seeing Rocca at the B&F the year he left the club. Sure, he skulked at the back of the room all night and left as soon as he reasonably could, but at least he was made welcome and showed up.
                We were talking about this last night. Our departing coaches were all given a great show of thanks and warmly greeted. Our delisted players were genuinely thanked for their contributions etc. We didn't treat Mitchell like that last year either.
                Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                • longmile
                  Crumber
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 3362

                  Just to summarise the Swans involvement in the trade period so far, the Swans are allegedly looking at Jack Watts, Rory Thompson and Anthony Miles. It sounds like Watts will probably move to Geelong or PA, but I haven't heard anything additional about the other two. Also been rumours of Tippett been moved along with GCS being the most obvious.

                  Anything I've missed which isn't just hot air or one of Barrett's ravings?

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    I wonder if any fringeish players might follow Dew to GCS as they need players not picks.

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15963

                      Where is the Rory Thompson rumour? I?d be very surprised if we are bringing in a key defender.
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                      • wolftone57
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 5835

                        Originally posted by ugg
                        Where is the Rory Thompson rumour? I?d be very surprised if we are bringing in a key defender.

                        I wouldn't because we just delisted Talia. But I think Thompson would be a bit rich for us

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11330

                          Originally posted by ugg
                          Where is the Rory Thompson rumour? I?d be very surprised if we are bringing in a key defender.
                          On SEN this morning Matt Finnis, CEO of the Saints indicated they were interested..."but he is still contracted".
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • waswan
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2047

                            Wellingham delisted
                            Perfect as outside back flanker
                            Great kick
                            Best mates with Buddy
                            and cheap

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              Originally posted by Nico
                              On SEN this morning Matt Finnis, CEO of the Saints indicated they were interested..."but he is still contracted".
                              Tippo swap plus plus ?

                              Rory Thompson - goldcoastfc.com.au
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • Meg
                                Go Swannies!
                                Site Admin
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 4828

                                If you are bored and looking for something to do, look at a photo posted by Laidler on his Insta account today of a group of blokes on the back of a boat in a ?bucks do? for Nick Smith. Then put names to all the faces. Hint: there are a LOT of backmen (and others). Memories of past Swans list management!

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