2017 trading, drafting, list management

[S.S. Bleeder]

List clogger, had his chances, was unlucky with injury but id be disappointed if Hayward, Floreant, Dawson and this years first rounder didn't go past him

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Tippett, Pick 14 and Robinson for Lynch......

Would you agree to that if you were Dew? No way.

[S.S. Bleeder]

You would think Dan's manager would have tested the waters to see if there was some interest before asking for a trade. Dan was one of the players I listed who should consider going to another club for more opportunities. I think he would be a good fit for GC who are in real need of midfielders. I would take an upgrade of our pick 32 to one of their picks in the 20s.

XRs manager thanks you for the advice.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

When I read the news flash I immediately thought of X Richards fateful decision last year. Only difference is Robbo does have a contract for 2018.

Dew knows him well and other Suns coaches would have seen a lot of him in the NEAFL. Probably his best hope on a 1-2 year deal, we'd get a very modest pick upgrade at best.

Still perplexed about Pies and Murray, you hardly ever see targeting of another club's rookie. What do Pies know that we don't?

Obviously Murray doesnt defend or tackle enough. Longmire wanted another rookie contract for Murray or put a line through him.

I am very uneasy about this as I think he can play AFL level but Bucks might kill his career anyway.

We need slow back flankers to win premierships not the other types.

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[dejavoodoo44]

Nothing. They know the same thing we do ... that any player in a red and white jumper would improve a player list wearing & white jumpers.

While many of us know that, I doubt if many pies know that?

[S.S. Bleeder]

Hear that the Pie's may be sniffing around Tippo.

They need a big body forward to help Darcy Moore..just a whisper.

LOL. Haven't they learned from being burnt in Maine and Wells deals? Imagine three overpaid spuds on their list. It would be awesome.

[Ludwig]

A reasonable solution for us on these 2 potential trades would be:

1. Murray and pick 51 to Collingwood for pick 38 (equal to pick 55 in value points).
2. Robinson and pick 38 to Gold Coast for pick 25 (= pick 49).
3. That works out to Murray, Robinson and pick 51 for pick 25.

That would give us picks 14, 25 and 31 which should be 3 good players to work with out of this draft. I would be happy with that.

[Auntie.Gerald]

100%

Dawson Florent Hayward etc will get plenty of game time anyways

[Markwebbos]

A reasonable solution for us on these 2 potential trades would be:

1. Murray and pick 51 to Collingwood for pick 38 (equal to pick 55 in value points).
2. Robinson and pick 38 to Gold Coast for pick 25 (= pick 49).
3. That works out to Murray, Robinson and pick 51 for pick 25.

That would give us picks 14, 25 and 31 which should be 3 good players to work with out of this draft. I would be happy with that.

Don?t see us getting a pick in the 20s for Robinson. There?s talk Wilson will go to Freo for pick 40!

[Ludwig]

Don?t see us getting a pick in the 20s for Robinson. There?s talk Wilson will go to Freo for pick 40!

I don't think that will do the deal for Wilson. The problem is that Freo only have pick 5, 41 and 42, so it's difficult to construct a fair trade just using this year's picks. Maybe Freo's 2018 2nd rounder and pick 41 would be enough.

With the proposed Robinson trade, it's a matter of moving up 13 places, not a straight trade for pick 25. It comes to a value points equivalent of pick 49, which sounds more than fair. Also would give GC 3 consecutive picks at 37,38 and 39 which has some added value to having picks spaced apart.

I doubt it will go down this way. Who knows if anyone wants Robbo. And there could be future picks involved as well.

It will be hard to get any deals done with GC before they complete the Adam Saad and Gary Ablett trades.

[The Big Cat]

Robbo will go out on a token deal like Membrey and Biggs. Probably a pick we won't even use. Like Membrey and Biggs a depth player in the Swans structures. Only hope is maybe him plus a pick for Watts.

[ernie koala]

A reasonable solution for us on these 2 potential trades would be:

1. Murray and pick 51 to Collingwood for pick 38 (equal to pick 55 in value points).
2. Robinson and pick 38 to Gold Coast for pick 25 (= pick 49).
3. That works out to Murray, Robinson and pick 51 for pick 25.

That would give us picks 14, 25 and 31 which should be 3 good players to work with out of this draft. I would be happy with that.

Ludwig, your cup runneth over.....With unbridled optimism.

[MattW]

Strange one, considering:

1. He is a Sydney boy.
2. He's received chances when fit.

Yes, I thought the chances given to him were reasonably generous and not grasped.

[Ludwig]

Ludwig, your cup runneth over.....With unbridled optimism.

You are almost certainly right, but if it does come off, we can move my post to the Positives thread.

[grarmy]

Collingwood can $#@% off. I want Tip to stay and finally deliver what he owes us and I feel it in my dodgy ankle that it's just around the corner.......isn't it? It's got to be!

Tippo?s best days are a memory. You?re dreaming.

[jono2707]

Contracted Swans midfielder wants out - AFL.com.au

Dan Robinson has asked for a trade, seeking better senior opportunities. He doesn't have a very high profile so not sure there will be lots of clubs knocking down the door. But if he has a relationship with Dew, maybe the Gold Coast is a possibility.

I'd have thought his standing was reasonably high at the club. He held his position in the senior team until he got injured, and while he's probably not "best 22" I get the feeling he's not far outside.

Dan will give it one more year - quite possibly at another club. But if he hasn't established himself further by the end of next year, he'll retire from the AFL. He's an intelligent guy earning a degree, and he has other career choices ahead of him that will likely be more lucrative than struggling for a career as a good, but not special, AFL player.

He's always put in 110% for us, but if his future is elsewhere, either in the AFL or outside, good on him for giving it a red hot go.