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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6480

    Ok last comment

    He does deserve credit and his player group and coaching group

    The question is .......why?

    Why has it taking so long to be more flexible
    It is an extremely basic understanding of the game

    I was taught in soccer and afl from 15 onwards low pressure high pressure defence and low pressure high pressure attack

    Uncontested and contested
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4049

      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
      Ok last comment

      He does deserve credit and his player group and coaching group

      The question is .......why?

      Why has it taking so long to be more flexible
      It is an extremely basic understanding of the game

      I was taught in soccer and afl from 15 onwards low pressure high pressure defence and low pressure high pressure attack

      Uncontested and contested
      The main reason we won,just like the North and St Kilda games, was the high pressure we put on the Bullies. This causes turnovers and scrappy kicks so we can in turn find open players on the spread. It's not rocket science. It's the aim every week. It was missing in the first quarter of the Hawks game and cost us dearly. We were still stiff to lose the game being down 2 players, especially Lloyd who has been in our top 4 players this season and gives us the most run of anybody.

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6480

        Check the stats from the first qtr
        So much more then just high pressure
        Did u see the uncontested footy we played first qtr?

        I didn't look like the swans of this season

        In fact opposite !!!

        We starved the Dogs of possession by keeping possession via a ncotested football

        We finally used this style of football to dictate terms and then rained hell with contested football when we wrestlers back control
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
          Check the stats from the first qtr
          So much more then just high pressure
          Did u see the uncontested footy we played first qtr?

          I didn't look like the swans of this season

          In fact opposite !!!

          We starved the Dogs of possession by keeping possession via a ncotested football

          We finally used this style of football to dictate terms and then rained hell with contested football when we wrestlers back control
          I don't think I saw the Swans kick it out of defense long down the line to a contest until late in the last Q.

          Praise be

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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            Time for the knockers to back up the truck and take their grumbling down the highway. You can keep sharpening your knives ready for the next time we lose a few. You can't sheet all the blame to Horse and the other coaches when we lose and give him none of the credit when we win. Personally, I think it is and was more to do with the players, and getting players back from injury and the players building their form and fitness (which remains a work in progress).
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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4049

              Personally, I think it is and was more to do with the players, and getting players back from injury and the players building their form and fitness (which remains a work in progress).[/QUOTE]

              Spot on Spirit!

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              • Mug Punter
                On the Rookie List
                • Nov 2009
                • 3325

                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Time for the knockers to back up the truck and take their grumbling down the highway. You can keep sharpening your knives ready for the next time we lose a few. You can't sheet all the blame to Horse and the other coaches when we lose and give him none of the credit when we win. Personally, I think it is and was more to do with the players, and getting players back from injury and the players building their form and fitness (which remains a work in progress).
                Spot on but I wouldn't hold your breath. Anything less than a flag will see people on here thinking they know more about football than him.

                Even with one poor performance we're 5-1 and top of the form table for the last six rounds. But we still have muppets on here who know nothing about football saying it's our playing style. No, we're the form team of the comp and we went 0-6 largely because we six of our best 22 out, a situation which would cruel any club in the comp with the possible exception of GWS (but even they could easily be 7-5 if they hadn't jagged their close games)

                We play a simple honest brand of footy and it's based on contested possession, an absolute hardness at the football and solid defence. It's not cute, big or clever but it has served us pretty well under Longmire, who I might add plays a much more expansive and attack minded brand of St Paul, whose brand of football was right up there with Lyon and Eade in terms of ruining football not that any of us (myself included) complained as really all that most of us want is to (a) see the players give it 100% and (b) Win

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  Originally posted by Mug Punter
                  Spot on but I wouldn't hold your breath. Anything less than a flag will see people on here thinking they know more about football than him.

                  Even with one poor performance we're 5-1 and top of the form table for the last six rounds. But we still have muppets on here who know nothing about football saying it's our playing style. No, we're the form team of the comp and we went 0-6 largely because we six of our best 22 out, a situation which would cruel any club in the comp with the possible exception of GWS (but even they could easily be 7-5 if they hadn't jagged their close games)

                  We play a simple honest brand of footy and it's based on contested possession, an absolute hardness at the football and solid defence. It's not cute, big or clever but it has served us pretty well under Longmire, who I might add plays a much more expansive and attack minded brand of St Paul, whose brand of football was right up there with Lyon and Eade in terms of ruining football not that any of us (myself included) complained as really all that most of us want is to (a) see the players give it 100% and (b) Win
                  Not altogether fair to St Paul, who certainly laid emphasis on a solid defence, but also insisted that we have good run out of defence, high pressure centre work, decent skills and a competent gorilla-class high-scoring forward, with one or two who could pick up the crumbs.
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • graemed
                    Swans2win
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 410

                    Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                    I understand the reference - but the last Swan 42 I recall is Paul Bevan. He is not the answer to any footballing question, and certainly not the questions asked.
                    The last regular senior player to wear 42 was Dane Rampe. This year Robbie Fox wore it into some of the earlier matches.

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                    • superswannie
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2017
                      • 4

                      I agree with comments re: cattle. Over the first six, injuries exacerbated the rebuild of our defensive unit (sans Rampe, Macca and Teddy). And Heeney and Papley have shown over recent weeks why they are so important in our side. Same can be said of Jack (see Tigers game, and Geelong at Skilled last year). If anything, Horse should be credited for maintaining a game winning style whilst engineering a root and branch rebuild of the list from our 2012 side. The numbers tell this story. I loved the players wearing 5, 9, and 41 in 12 (The first two won the game for us). But we moved on our norm Smith medallist almost immediately, Mummy at the end of 13 and Mal a year later. Now there are three promising young players wearing those jumpers (and what a revelation Hayward has been). Contrasted with the Hawks (who have waited too long to make the tough calls), people should be lauding the Swans coaching and list management, regardless of the result this year.

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        Naysayers... do you still want Horse's head on a platter?
                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          Originally posted by AnnieH
                          Naysayers... do you still want Horse's head on a platter?
                          Pillow is also a possibility.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • aardvark
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5685

                            Credit where credit is due he did remember to have Towers on the bench at the end of the game.

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                            • ROK Lobster
                              RWO Life Member
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 8658

                              Originally posted by AnnieH
                              Naysayers... do you still want Horse's head on a platter?
                              Time to get Roos back. No question, greatest thing that ever happened to the Swans and should never have been allowed to leave.

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                              • chalbilto
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1139

                                Wow ROK Lobster. Talk about a blast from the past. Welcome back. Where are BBB & Big AL? and who can forget Connelly.

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