2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11329

    Longmire was quite adamant a week or so ago that McVeigh was retiring at the end of the year, despite speculation from the 5000 accredited AFL journos. That's code for "we will have more cap space to fit in a steal from another club".
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    • ernie koala
      Senior Player
      • May 2007
      • 3251

      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I wish Hanners was going better this year. Maybe GC would offer him a contract too big to refuse. I would trade him and our 1st round pick for GC's 1st rounder (probably pick 2). I would take Izak Rankine with that pick. I would use the extra cap space from trading Hanners to get Luke Dahlhaus as a FA. And get Blakey by using our 2nd round picks.
      Your dreamin.... Hannebery is a non-tradable commodity going on 2 years form and overpriced contract ...We'll just have to hope he comes good.
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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      • Aprilbr
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2016
        • 1803

        Yes Hanners on 2018 form would not be worth much in the trading period. If he returned to form getting his zip back in 2019 then he would be worth something. We are stuck with him so we can only hope that he recovers what he has lost. His decline has been stunning.


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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11329

          Originally posted by Aprilbr
          Yes Hanners on 2018 form would not be worth much in the trading period. If he returned to form getting his zip back in 2019 then he would be worth something. We are stuck with him so we can only hope that he recovers what he has lost. His decline has been stunning.


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          Unless he retires.
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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4040

            Originally posted by Ludwig
            I wish Hanners was going better this year. Maybe GC would offer him a contract too big to refuse. I would trade him and our 1st round pick for GC's 1st rounder (probably pick 2). I would take Izak Rankine with that pick. I would use the extra cap space from trading Hanners to get Luke Dahlhaus as a FA. And get Blakey by using our 2nd round picks.
            Have a feeling that Swans will be big players in the coming draft, hopefully on a par with the year we brought in Kennedy, McGlynn and Mumford. Maybe have to use player swaps rather than picks, not that I have a deep insight into this. Others on this forum more informed about details than me.

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            • Aprilbr
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2016
              • 1803

              I tend to agree with Blood Fever. Danger for us is that Lloyd agrees to go to a bottom club like Gold Coast or Carlton for big money and gets there via the pre season draft. Then we get absolutely nothing for him. Happened to us with Membery a few seasons back. He is worth a first rounder on current form. Most of our other likely tradeable players are not worth much now unless we agree to let someone like Jones go for a good deal (he has a year left on his contract). There will certainly be quite a few list changes come the end of the year. Most though will be fringe players or veterans let go.


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              • Markwebbos
                Veterans List
                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                That’s not true about Membrey. We let him go to the Saints in the pre-Season draft after delisting him as a favour.

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  I really doubt anyone is leaving unless it's Lloyd to a GC offer that is too good for him to refuse. Pre-season draft is not a threat used by clubs, all try to deal in good faith.

                  Membrey went for more playing time.

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                  • MattW
                    Veterans List
                    • May 2011
                    • 4196

                    Amartey signs a one-year extension: Amartey stoked to sign - sydneyswans.com.au.

                    Good news. Strong mark, great second efforts/tackling; just needs to improve his kicking.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      It was pointed out today on afl.com.au that the Swans now have former Bulldogs recruiting chief Simon Dalrymple at the club. He spent 11 seasons at the Bulldogs from 2007-2017.

                      I wondered if there were any Dogs we might go after via trade or free agency e.g. Libba, Wallis, Dahlhaus, Roughead etc?

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                      • Aprilbr
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 1803

                        Originally posted by Markwebbos
                        That’s not true about Membrey. We let him go to the Saints in the pre-Season draft after delisting him as a favour.
                        As I said in the previous post we got nothing for him. That was the point that I was making! The Swans wanted to keep him but he asked to go for more opportunities elsewhere.


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                        • Pmcc2911
                          Regular in the Side
                          • May 2013
                          • 516

                          Interesting article tabling the demise of Hannebury.
                          The damning stats behind a star's shock demise - AFL.com.au

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                          • Markwebbos
                            Veterans List
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7186

                            Originally posted by Aprilbr
                            As I said in the previous post we got nothing for him. That was the point that I was making! The Swans wanted to keep him but he asked to go for more opportunities elsewhere.


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                            Yes, you are right. We did get nothing for him, partly because the Saints had pick one in the PSD.

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                            Originally posted by Pmcc2911
                            Interesting article tabling the demise of Hannebury.
                            The damning stats behind a star's shock demise - AFL.com.au
                            Damian Barrett stirring the pot about Hanners future with the Swans: Sliding Doors: round 17 - AFL.com.au

                            If: Rival clubs know one thing about Hannebery ...

                            Then: It is that he is contracted to the end of 2021. But some have already asked the question, and others will do so in the off-season. There's something strange going on here.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              It was pointed out today on afl.com.au that the Swans now have former Bulldogs recruiting chief Simon Dalrymple at the club. He spent 11 seasons at the Bulldogs from 2007-2017.

                              I wondered if there were any Dogs we might go after via trade or free agency e.g. Libba, Wallis, Dahlhaus, Roughead etc?
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              I wish Hanners was going better this year. Maybe GC would offer him a contract too big to refuse. I would trade him and our 1st round pick for GC's 1st rounder (probably pick 2). I would take Izak Rankine with that pick. I would use the extra cap space from trading Hanners to get Luke Dahlhaus as a FA. And get Blakey by using our 2nd round picks.
                              I think Dalrymple did a really good job at WB. They've made so many good picks in recent years, with plenty coming from lower in the draft. He could add a lot to an already impressive list management group.

                              I had this thought last week about swapping Hanners for Dahlhaus and picking up a high draft pick in the process. I like the swap as a straight up trade, so the draft pick would be a big bonus. Now how can we get GC to offer Hanners a 5yr contract at $4.5 mil plus the captaincy replacing Lynch. Maybe it would be too much for Hanners to resist. Of GC would have to be convinced that Hanners' form drop is temporary and he'd be back to his usual self next year.

                              Interesting that Damien Barrett has a bit of this in his Sliding Doors piece. I suspect he's an anonymous subscriber to the Poorly Disguised Pornography edition of Ludwig's Footy Journal.

                              Last edited by Ludwig; 13 July 2018, 12:34 PM.

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                If GC would offer us draft picks in return for Hanners, and take his entire salary off our hands, surely we would consider it?

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