2018 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • S.S. Bleeder
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2014
    • 2165

    Originally posted by Mel_C
    Apparently Hanners has broken up with his partner. Does anyone know if she's from Melbourne or Sydney? It may be a hint as to whether he is staying or going ????.
    That would make so much sense as to why he's playing so poorly and wants to return to Melbourne. She's a Sydney girl if I recall correctly.

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      With Reid Melican and Mills in the 22 maybe Naismith
      A few youngsters hopefully improving we need to bump a few list cloggers

      Ling should be in the 22
      Dawson in the 22
      Blakey in the 22
      If we get another 1st rounded they should play

      Rohan Newman Fox Robinson Foote Rose save some money

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      • Melbourne_Blood
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 3312

        Originally posted by waswan
        With Reid Melican and Mills in the 22 maybe Naismith
        A few youngsters hopefully improving we need to bump a few list cloggers

        Ling should be in the 22
        Dawson in the 22
        Blakey in the 22
        If we get another 1st rounded they should play

        Rohan Newman Fox Robinson Foote Rose save some money
        Agree on Dawson but the call on Ling and Blakey is premature


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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Feel a lot will change at the end of this year. Buckle up

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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8149

            Originally posted by 09183305
            Not sure if anyone would be genuinely interested in Hanners after the last few weeks (surprised they were after the last couple of years). I’d hazard that his trade value has probably dropped significantly.
            Got plenty of the pill tonight, but his use of it mirrored so much of this season. Sad to see him at a level so far below how good he was at his best.

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            Originally posted by waswan
            With Reid Melican and Mills in the 22 maybe Naismith
            A few youngsters hopefully improving we need to bump a few list cloggers

            Ling should be in the 22
            Dawson in the 22
            Blakey in the 22
            If we get another 1st rounded they should play

            Rohan Newman Fox Robinson Foote Rose save some money
            Who knows what Ling will be - but he isn't going to likely be ready to walk into the 1st team, especially after missing basically the whole season.

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            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            Feel a lot will change at the end of this year. Buckle up
            I hope so - but only if the deals make sense. Better to tread water for a year than throw the baby out with the bathwater (as I feel Port may well have done in recent years) in terms of the playing list.

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            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            Feel a lot will change at the end of this year. Buckle up
            I hope so - but only if the deals make sense. Better to tread water for a year than throw the baby out with the bathwater (as I feel Port may well have done in recent years) in terms of the playing list.
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • aguy
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2014
              • 1324

              Well last week I was bemoaning the delistings being made public from other clubs before finals finished but now I just want to know what deadwood we are going to get rid of to Give us hope. I completely understand the announcements now haha

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              • waswan
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2015
                • 2047

                We need to bring in bonafide first 10 talent for our team
                no more fringe options

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by aguy
                  Well last week I was bemoaning the delistings being made public from other clubs before finals finished but now I just want to know what deadwood we are going to get rid of to Give us hope. I completely understand the announcements now haha
                  Good point. I’m not quite baying for blood but want evidence of a scalpel being taken to our list.

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                  • robamiee
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 688

                    i guess the ? then is who do we target in both free agents available, players on last year of contracts to trade with their respective clubs..
                    I feel we ahve good youngsters coming in with blakey to be added, so i think adding some early to mid 20's players will help..
                    there is no real big fish available..
                    we need some genuine TALENT players its ok to be blue collar, but sometimes you need that little bit of flair a rioli type etc

                    I wuoldnt mind us having a go at Mitch Wallis, Maybe Nathan freeman (his body holding up i know but great talent.. )
                    Jimmy Toumpas perhaps... Talent just been at 2 crap clubs

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                    • rb4x
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 968

                      Mitch Grigg delisted by Adelaide and then wins two Magarey Medals. Worth a look for a late pick like Collingwoods second rounder if we still have it after blowing all our points on Blakey.

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                      • Cosmic Wizard
                        recruit me pretty please!
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 620

                        Originally posted by robamiee
                        i guess the ? then is who do we target in both free agents available, players on last year of contracts to trade with their respective clubs..
                        I feel we ahve good youngsters coming in with blakey to be added, so i think adding some early to mid 20's players will help..
                        there is no real big fish available..
                        we need some genuine TALENT players its ok to be blue collar, but sometimes you need that little bit of flair a rioli type etc

                        I wuoldnt mind us having a go at Mitch Wallis, Maybe Nathan freeman (his body holding up i know but great talent.. )
                        Jimmy Toumpas perhaps... Talent just been at 2 crap clubs
                        This only works if you get rid of the dead wood on our list; can our club do this???

                        It hasn't in the pass; will it get rid of Hannas and Reid??

                        There are so many examples of players just keep on the list because five years ago they were good.

                        Why are we keeping both Gundy and Mcviegh?

                        And AA is also very slow
                        doof-doof

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8497

                          Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
                          This only works if you get rid of the dead wood on our list; can our club do this???

                          It hasn't in the pass; will it get rid of Hannas and Reid??

                          There are so many examples of players just keep on the list because five years ago they were good.

                          Why are we keeping both Gundy and Mcviegh?

                          And AA is also very slow
                          AFL player tracker from yesterday's game. Buddy recorded the quickest speed at 32.4 kph. The next best was Aliir and Cunningham, equal on 32.0 kph. These speeds were faster than the quickest Giant: Reid at 31.7 kph.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8149

                            Originally posted by waswan
                            We need to bring in bonafide first 10 talent for our team
                            no more fringe options
                            Yes and no. We need the best quality we can buy of course, but we also need some AFL quality depth. Not 'theoretical' depth that turns out to not really be at AFL standard. So we probably need a bit of both to be honest and to move forward.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8149

                              Originally posted by robamiee
                              i guess the ? then is who do we target in both free agents available, players on last year of contracts to trade with their respective clubs..
                              I feel we ahve good youngsters coming in with blakey to be added, so i think adding some early to mid 20's players will help..
                              there is no real big fish available..
                              we need some genuine TALENT players its ok to be blue collar, but sometimes you need that little bit of flair a rioli type etc

                              I wuoldnt mind us having a go at Mitch Wallis, Maybe Nathan freeman (his body holding up i know but great talent.. )
                              Jimmy Toumpas perhaps... Talent just been at 2 crap clubs
                              No to Freeman - we have enough permanent sick notes at the club already.
                              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                              • mcs
                                Travelling Swannie!!
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 8149

                                Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
                                This only works if you get rid of the dead wood on our list; can our club do this???

                                It hasn't in the pass; will it get rid of Hannas and Reid??

                                There are so many examples of players just keep on the list because five years ago they were good.

                                Why are we keeping both Gundy and Mcviegh?

                                And AA is also very slow
                                I don't think Aliir is slow, but I think he is slow to react in terms of his second efforts when the first attempt at possession is not effective - he needs to hugely improve that part of his game.

                                I can understand why we are keeping Grundy and McVeigh, though I'm not convinced at all with a fit list Grundy will play much next year. But I do think we should look to regenerate the list a bit - Hannebrey and Rohan are two I would see as players that could be moved on (I hate to use that term as it sounds so cold - but you get what I mean). Reid has too much to offer when he is fit - I would only shift him if we had an obvious, more fit player to play his role. And I don't think we do, nor will we have the currency to get one in the trade period.
                                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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