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  • crackedactor
    Regular in the Side
    • May 2012
    • 919

    Originally posted by moocher
    Didn't Harley say that it would take a few days to get them done. I seem to remember this Thursday being mentioned. I can't remember where I heard this.
    Talking about deals I see Josh Kennedy was seen talking to Fremantle officials today. Hopefully just to discuss Harley Bennell. Personally the only way Bennell might be any good, is if Micky O coaches him like he did in his junior days.


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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      Josh kennedy from west coast ? ????
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • mcs
        Travelling Swannie!!
        • Jul 2007
        • 8149

        Originally posted by barry
        Never. You are projecting your own misplaced loyalties again.

        Give me a M, give me a C, give me a G.....
        Barry my loyalties bleed red and white and that's it That rare air up in the Members Level of ANZ seems to have had a lasting impact...

        I actually agree with you in regards to the Grand Final, but am pragmatic enough to know no matter how much whining one does, its not going to change anything any time soon.

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        Originally posted by Cosmic Wizard
        This really angry me!.

        We should have made a play for him; he is really good, and how does Carlton get to trade him for 42??

        It seems that this has just enabled Vic club to get more picks; i mean what will Carlton pick up for 42??

        Really disgraceful.
        AS always it seems that the AFL has erred somewhat in this model for providing assistance. I actually don't mind it, but don't understand really how a guy that only missed out on being drafted last year should really be eligible. A few years past his draft year at least would be fairer and closer to the intent of what such an approach should be about.

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        Originally posted by waswan
        What is the latest with Ling as well ? Never talk about by the club, via injury or even a bull@@@@@ update about him looking forward to a big pre-season etc

        Similar to where we are picking this year has to be in final 22 calculations for next year
        Probably very much a wait and see with Ling. His first season totally stuffed by injury, it'll be like almost having a new draftee with him I expect - so they may not be wanting to pump the tires too much.

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        Originally posted by stevoswan
        Is anyone getting slightly frustrated at how long it is taking to get these deals actually done? I mean, these players actually want to go, St Kilda and Geelong actually want them......how long do they all need FFS?
        Frankly I have better things to worry about.... but it does seem to be a slow process!
        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Category: | Herald Sun

          Aaron vandenBerg’s love for coach Simon Goodwin has him agonising over a decision to leave the club after being offered a multi-year deal at the Swans.

          The powerful Melbourne half forward is being aggressively pursued by the Swans, who have offered him a pay rise and a deal that could extend to three years.

          A move north makes sense on every level for the former Ainslie midfielder because of his family situation and the death of his father Tony this year.

          But what should be a simple decision is complicated by his desire to play under third-year coach Goodwin and remain with his mates at Melbourne.

          It means Melbourne and Sydney, who have both offered multi-year deals, might have to wait until next week for a decision.

          “He is trying to make a decision between the place he loves and the people he loves,” manager Ryan Kogelman told the Herald Sun.

          “He has to weigh up both offers. Money won’t be his primary decision but it’s more about if he can make it work if he stays in Melbourne to have more family time. If he goes, he is surrounded by family. That’s the primary issue,” Kogelman said.

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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8149

            Originally posted by crackedactor
            Talking about deals I see Josh Kennedy was seen talking to Fremantle officials today. Hopefully just to discuss Harley Bennell. Personally the only way Bennell might be any good, is if Micky O coaches him like he did in his junior days.


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            Might have been asking advice for what time of year to visit Fremantle for a holiday ain't no way we'd be selling our captain off to that doomed ship surely.... if so there would truly be something catastrophically wrong you would think at the club.
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • crackedactor
              Regular in the Side
              • May 2012
              • 919

              Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
              Josh kennedy from west coast ? [emoji23]
              No Swans Josh Kennedy.


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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                Matthew Ling's highlight reel - sydneyswans.com.au

                Ryley Stoddart's highlight reel - sydneyswans.com.au

                These two boys havethe sizzle
                They are just earning their way via injuries and key outcomes expected in defence and attack

                They could be fairly decent footballers for many years for the Swans off HBF and the Wing

                Combined they could be deadly down the left

                Just a bit early in 2018

                But like lloyd etc need to fill out and find their way thru our system to be accountable and like their natural game dangerous in attack
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • Muttley
                  Pushing for Selection
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 65

                  What about this:
                  13 for Langdon + 49
                  31, 36 + 49 = pick 10. With 20% discount this would cover Blakey up to a bid at pick 6. So should be enough for Blakey.
                  Saints 2019 2nd rounder for Clarke + 40.
                  That leaves pick 40 for a kid in the draft, 67 for Vandenberg and 85 for Duryea.

                  For the record I dont think we would go for both Langdon and Finlayson. Would have to be one or the other.

                  If Langdon falls through we simply go to the same as above but:

                  13 = best kid available in the draft
                  40 = Finlayson.

                  Or
                  13 for Scully but ask GWS for pick 24 back.

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                  • crackedactor
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2012
                    • 919

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    Matthew Ling's highlight reel - sydneyswans.com.au

                    Ryley Stoddart's highlight reel - sydneyswans.com.au

                    These two boys havethe sizzle
                    They are just earning their way via injuries and key outcomes expected in defence and attack

                    They could be fairly decent footballers for many years for the Swans off HBF and the Wing

                    Combined they could be deadly down the left

                    Just a bit early in 2018

                    But like lloyd etc need to fill out and find their way thru our system to be accountable and like their natural game dangerous in attack
                    Hear some good judges saying that Ling is the real deal as a AFL footballer. Personally speaking I have not seen anything to get excited about.


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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      I think Vandenberg will go for more than pick 67, if he goes. There's talk of us turning our 13 into 20 + 22 with WCE or similar with Carlton to help them trade Kelly / McGovern.

                      One of those might be appropriate for Langdon and something in the 30s for Vandenberg

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4195

                        The Age reporting Rohan will be traded tomorrow 'for a low draft pick' (they've got 50, 59 and 61) and St Kilda will open talks re Hanners now Shiel is lost. Demon Tyson keen on move to North.

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                        • MattW
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                          • May 2011
                          • 4195

                          Langdon's grand final: Tom Langdon 2018 Grand Final - YouTube.

                          Courageous player, good hands, decent contested mark.

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                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5835

                            Originally posted by crackedactor
                            Hear some good judges saying that Ling is the real deal as a AFL footballer. Personally speaking I have not seen anything to get excited about.


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                            Maybe because he played so little footy and was injured for most of the year. Even when he was out there he wasn't right. the club admitted as much.

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                            • Auntie.Gerald
                              Veterans List
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6474

                              The Age today:

                              If Geelong want pick 13 for kelly
                              We can 3 way swap
                              Gives 400 more pts

                              Ie
                              Kelly to west coast
                              Rohan to cats
                              Cats get pick 13
                              We get picks 20 and pick 22 from west coast and maybe even a late draft pick 50 from cats ?

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                              “The Eagles are considering how to use their first two picks - 20 and 22 - to secure Geelong's Tim Kelly, having received pick 20 as compensation for losing ruckman Scott Lycett after deciding not to match Port Adelaide's offer for the premiership player.

                              West Coast believe those two picks are a fair exchange for Kelly but they might have to bundle those picks in a trade to move up the draft order as the Cats endeavour to gain a high selection for the runner-up in their best and fairest.

                              Swan Gary Rohan looks set to join the Cats from Sydney on Wednesday in exchange for a low draft pick”
                              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                              • Mark26
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 1535

                                We've just swapped pick 13 for Carlton's 26 + 28.

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