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  • Scottee
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 1585

    Originally posted by AB Swannie
    Can any NEAFL watchers comment on Ling’s game? Only the 7 possessions. Is that due to limited game time or just not getting near it?
    Nothing to be optimistic about here, he also had 4 goals kisked on him.Seemed to play most of then game. Could be a bust.
    We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16758

      He looked very clean, quick and constructive in his first game back, albeit only playing the second half. I think he's been a little underwhelming since.

      Yesterday's NEAFL game is hard to assess because there was a big mismatch in size and experience. I think the Lions only had two academy players in their team, both U19 players and one of whom is highly likely to be drafted this year. We had 14 listed players and the rest academy players, including at least one (small) 16yo. We had Pink, Cameron and Amartey who can genuinely be considered as tall players, the Lions had lots of height. And then look at the AFL experience they had playing - Christensen, Mathieson, Bastinac amongst others. The only player we had with anything like that amount of experience was Clarke, who at least worked hard to win possession even if he wasn't very constructive with it. And even amongst the listed players we had, only Rowbottom is really a developing inside player. The rest of the smaller players are more outside running types. So the team wasn't particularly well equipped to win first possession, or to defend the Lions' marking targets once it got inside their 50. There were a few good moments but it's not surprising they were relatively rare. It's hard to get a handle on the outside players, in particular, in that kind of game.

      That said, the game showed we don't have anyone (other than COR and, at a pinch, Rose) who looks ready to come in and make any difference at senior level. Someone like Stoddart might be able to contribute in an otherwise strong senior team (albeit his disposal wasn't great yesterday) but I suspect he'll struggle in the underworking senior team that we currently have.

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      • Agent 86
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2004
        • 1686

        For a moment, I thought this was about the firsts…

        “We were very patchy today. We came out of the blocks really slowly, and when you give 20 AFL-listed players a chance to get on the front foot early, it gives them a lot of confidence going forward,” Laidler said.

        “I thought in the second quarter we matched them and pulled them apart a little bit, but after half-time we were quite disappointing. Our work rate was quite poor, we didn’t have enough contributors and they had an even spread of players on board.”

        NEAFL: Clarke shines in loss to Lions - sydneyswans.com.au

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          Originally posted by Agent 86
          For a moment, I thought this was about the firsts…

          “We were very patchy today. We came out of the blocks really slowly, and when you give 20 AFL-listed players a chance to get on the front foot early, it gives them a lot of confidence going forward,” Laidler said.

          “I thought in the second quarter we matched them and pulled them apart a little bit, but after half-time we were quite disappointing. Our work rate was quite poor, we didn’t have enough contributors and they had an even spread of players on board.”

          NEAFL: Clarke shines in loss to Lions - sydneyswans.com.au
          I feel like I've watched a different game. Clarke was awful. Sure he got 40+ possessions but would be lucky if more than 10 were effective. Obviously they are priming us for his return this week as Cunningham's replacement. It's stuff like this cause supporters to despair..........

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
            I feel like I've watched a different game. Clarke was awful. Sure he got 40+ possessions but would be lucky if more than 10 were effective. Obviously they are priming us for his return this week as Cunningham's replacement. It's stuff like this cause supporters to despair..........
            How about counting effective disposals, Clarke would be lucky to make double figures. Only future is as a tagger, cannot fix disposal once you get to his age, he's a butcher at best.

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              We play the Students 12 pm on Saturday at Henson Park. Could be a good one to get along to! Eyeball some of our talent in the flesh.
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              • ugg
                Can you feel it?
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 15968

                SYDNEY
                B: 52. J Pawle 47. T Pink 33. R Stoddart
                HB: 51. R Barkley 31. H Reynolds 53. K McKellar
                C: 32. J Bell 8. J Rowbottom 25. B Ronke
                HF: 4. R Clarke 45. S Wicks 16. Z Foot
                F: 19. M Ling 46. J Amartey 2. D Menzel
                R: 17. D Cameron 27. J McInerney 1. J Rose
                Int: 56. N Brewer 55. S Gaden 49. C Kilpatrick 54. L Swaney
                Emg: 57. J Dol 48. K Martin

                In: 56. N Brewer 2. D Menzel 55. S Gaden 54. L Swaney 31. H Reynolds
                Out: 38. C O’Riordan (AFL) 48. N Coxall 54. I Olsen 55. T Drum 50. K Veerhuis 59. M Belbasis (all omitted)
                New: 2. D Menzel

                SYDNEY UNI
                B: 28. D Baron-Hay 24. T Barton 15. M Carroll
                HB: 23. L Kilpatrick 3. A Gulden 26. W Sierakowski
                C: 7. J Bartholomaeus 21. L Stevenson 1. J Hiscox
                HF: 32. E Cole 10. S Fong 35. T Redden
                F: 16. H Morrison 19. T Davies 17. J Stern
                R: 22. S Tagliabue 5. B Stewart 9. J Veale
                Int: 6. S Barkley 29. D Cordell 36. A Sierakowski 14. M Krochmal 31. L Robertson*
                Emg: N/A.

                In: 22. S Tagliabue 26. W Sierakowski 28. D Baron-Hay
                Out: 25. L Hayres (injured) 18. J Dimery (omitted) 4. A Lucy (omitted)

                *Denotes 23rd player
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                • ugg
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15968

                  The nice thing about playing the NEAFL after the AFL is that none of the emergencies will have to sit out

                  You’d imagine Menzel will take the traditional route on being eased back into it by only playing a portion of the game. Losing O’Riordan to the seniors depleted the defence even further, leaving Pink as the most experienced player

                  Sydney Uni were surprisingly thumped by Southport last week. They currently sport only one official ex-Swan in Hiscox but a few other Academy graduates in Stewart, Baron-Hay, Kilpatrick, Carroll, Robertson, Barkley, Cordell, and Stern

                  I’m guessing the 2 Kilpatricks and 2 Barkleys in either side are brothers?
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                  • ugg
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                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15968

                    Also the match is now starting at 11:30am instead of the original time of noon
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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      Thanks for the heads up about the earlier start time, ugg.

                      What's happened to your fuller match previews? No time this year?
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                      • Mr Magoo
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2008
                        • 1255

                        Originally posted by ugg
                        The nice thing about playing the NEAFL after the AFL is that none of the emergencies will have to sit out

                        You’d imagine Menzel will take the traditional route on being eased back into it by only playing a portion of the game. Losing O’Riordan to the seniors depleted the defence even further, leaving Pink as the most experienced player

                        Sydney Uni were surprisingly thumped by Southport last week. They currently sport only one official ex-Swan in Hiscox but a few other Academy graduates in Stewart, Baron-Hay, Kilpatrick, Carroll, Robertson, Barkley, Cordell, and Stern

                        I’m guessing the 2 Kilpatricks and 2 Barkleys in either side are brothers?
                        And the Gulden is brother of Errol from 18s level?

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          Last edited by ugg; 11 May 2019, 11:14 AM.

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                          • ugg
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15968

                            Final teams are in, no change.
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                            • ugg
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15968

                              Menzel starting on the ground, kicks a behind with his first kick and a goal with his next.
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                              • dejavoodoo44
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                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8578

                                I thought Rowbottom was probably our best in that quarter. Bell looking classy and Menzel looking sharper than I expected, after a long layoff. Haven't seen Ling. I assume he's still on managed time?

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