2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    Is it just me, or does Cody Weightman remind one of Isaac Heeney? Something about his facial expressions, smile and demeanour really recalls Heeney to me.
    All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      Is it just me, or does Cody Weightman remind one of Isaac Heeney? Something about his facial expressions, smile and demeanour really recalls Heeney to me.
      I think in this case, its just you BS

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      • Nico
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 11330

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        That's a very good sign. Sounds like we'll rookie him and then who knows. According to this article clubs can save $85,000 by doing that.

        20-year-olds on $500k: How the 'Gold Coast tax' changed the game - AFL.com.au

        The piece talks about how much power and influence certain player agents have (Connors, TLA etc. Connors are agents for Noah Anderson, Tom Green and Hayden Young amongst others). And how some clubs (Gold Coast in particular) drafted players because they verbally agreed to a contract extension before they were drafted. Which sounds like draft tampering to me!

        Apparently some first rounders would sign contracts before playing a game that would give them up to $500k in their third and fourth years. I think Aiden Bonar was one of those. Bonkers!

        From the article:

        One list boss told AFL.com.au of first-round draft picks: "They are the most overpaid cohort in the competition." Another spoke of how handing over so much to kids in that bracket of the draft went against every other facet of life, where people were rewarded for performance rather than potential.
        Once again Player Managers playing with the system to increase their commission. I don't get why clubs don't stick their toes in and refuse to be intimidated.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          Originally posted by Nico
          Once again Player Managers playing with the system to increase their commission. I don't get why clubs don't stick their toes in and refuse to be intimidated.
          Market forces at work. The kids may not yet be worth the dollars but they will be and you can't risk losing them to another club that is willing to invest in their potential.

          A couple of years ago North came to prise Heeney away. Their crazy big offer no doubt compelled us to significantly up our offer and pay a high price for a talented kid. Andrew Ireland more or less said as much at some point (his exit interview?). Would you have had us just let Heeney go? We couldn't. That would have been dumb. But it reduces the $$ we have to pay the rest of our list.
          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by Nico
            Once again Player Managers playing with the system to increase their commission. I don't get why clubs don't stick their toes in and refuse to be intimidated.
            Gold Coast are in a difficult place, just their way of tackling retention. If this paying draftees big money for third and fourth years is causing any pain to the Melbourne clubs, good, they created this situation.

            I think we're all hoping that Gold Coast can finally start a climb up the ladder and become a desirable club to be drafted to as there are a lot of pluses for a player on the Gold Coast including the weather in winter. Now if you were drafted to the new Tasmanian team ..........

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8546

              Originally posted by 707
              Gold Coast are in a difficult place, just their way of tackling retention. If this paying draftees big money for third and fourth years is causing any pain to the Melbourne clubs, good, they created this situation.

              I think we're all hoping that Gold Coast can finally start a climb up the ladder and become a desirable club to be drafted to as there are a lot of pluses for a player on the Gold Coast including the weather in winter. Now if you were drafted to the new Tasmanian team ..........
              That is a good point. I'd imagine any NSW or Queensland boys who got drafted to Tassie would be crying "homesick" after a season or two down there! Probably even some of those 'tough' Victorian youngsters as well.
              Last edited by stevoswan; 6 November 2019, 10:55 AM.

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              • Beerman
                Regular in the Side
                • Oct 2010
                • 823

                Originally posted by stevoswan
                That is a good point. I'd imagine any NSW or Queensland boys who got drafted to Tassie would be crying "homesick" after a season or two down there! Probably even some of those 'tough' Victorian youngsters as well.
                I can't say I would blame them

                In Queenstown in Tasmania's west, they play football on gravel, not grass - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  Eeeeek!
                  All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                  • rojo
                    Opti-pessi-misti
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1102

                    We seem to have given up, for the time being, on trying to work out who we are going to pick up at 5/6 in the draft . What else is there to say!! Well, as I see it, we cross off 1,2,3 then if we indeed go for the next best player we should have three names on our selectors' list which seems at the moment is likely to be Young, Serong and Flanders. So we just take the one that is left after Melbourne and Adelaide pounce. If Melbourne were to go strategic and take Jackson we would have to toss up between. two.
                    Green alas would be the perfect one for us. Young would be good but not meeting our need for a big bodied classy mid. Serong would be good, especially being a Swan supporter, but another small. Flanderss would be good too, a bit more of a Heeney type perhaps. Hmmm ....not easy!

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                    • Meg
                      Go Swannies!
                      Site Admin
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4828

                      Lol! So a few leftover bolts sticking up at ANZ a few years back were trivial!

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                      • KSAS
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 1770

                        Sam Gray club article including SEN interview:
                        Gray abuzz - sydneyswans.com.au

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                        • KSAS
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 1770

                          Swans TV interview with Kaiden Brand:
                          New Recruit: Kaiden Brand - sydneyswans.com.au

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                          • sharp9
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2508

                            I know it’s a bit late to reply to this thought but...regarding the length of contract for the mid season draft, the answer is simple...contracts are only allowed till the end of the season - therefore there will be no early poaching of kids from the November draft and clubs will HAVE to use the mid season draft as it is intended ie. to fulfill a pressing need. Also this means that any potential stain on a young guy’s reputation (for getting delisted, effectively) would not happen. If anything their standing would be enhanced. This only came about because of clubs going “OMG what if all 3 of our mature age Ruckman are injured.....?” So, anyway, problem solved. ????
                            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                            • 707
                              Veterans List
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              Who are we taking? Seems to be the most open top of draft (ignoring the Gold Coast picks) that I can remember.

                              Jackson is suddenly being talked about as a top 5, are we into him as well? How does the GWS/Green scenario play out? Will GWS manage to get pick 3 off the Dees? Is Kemp's ACL going to push him out of centention? So many questions.

                              I am however confident we're prepared for any circumstance and that pick 5 will bring another high quality player and person to the club. It's the other three picks that are intriguing, I for one am glad we secured another useful pick this year in the Jones trade.

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                If Dees are into Jackson as alleged they may think he’ll still be around at 6 and do the deal with GWS which screws us.

                                But I wonder if GWS are also into Jackson given their ruck situation, which makes a swap with us much safer for Melbourne.

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