2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Aaron
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2009
    • 805

    Maibaum redrafted at 19

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16738

      And not surprisingly, Maibaum with the second pick.

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      • i'm-uninformed2
        Reefer Madness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4653

        Originally posted by KSAS
        I'm only a couch expert at list management, but watching the draft last night I was curious why we traded up to pick 38 to get Warner when almost certainly we could've done so with our next (last) pick being 69 as it turned out? Was it an option to draft either Rantall / Bianco with pick 38, Warner with 69 and then only have 2 selections in the Rookie draft (instead of 3)?
        Word is Geelong were into him
        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1768

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          My understanding is we were only going to have 4 picks, so when the opportunity came to move up we took it... and then bid on the top player on our list, who was Warner. It may well be that he would have been available without trading up. But this way gave us the best opportunity to grab the player we wanted. Even if he was a left-field bolter.
          Thanks Markwebbos, I appreciate the club went into the draft with strategy of drafting 4 but was there any obstacle if they wanted to change that on the night as it panned out? I'm not crtical whatsoever with our strategy, just curious if we were able to change our tact on the run?

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            Originally posted by Trev
            If Stephens plays AFL next year, even with an additional 5kgs, he will be rag dolled. Same as Stoddard this year. He's playing AFL, not SAFNL, bigger bodies, more intensity. I hope I'm wrong but we will see
            Let's not worry about how Stephens goes at AFL level next year. What's wrong with development. The beauty of the way the Swans have gone about the 'rebuild' is that there are so many young players now in the system seeking senior opportunities. I'm keen on seeing the players like Bell, Stoddart, Ling, McInerney and Foot play well in the NEAFL and earn senior call ups.

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            • rickmat
              Regular in the Side
              • Mar 2018
              • 500

              I agree 200%, Ludwig

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              • Ludwig
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 9359

                Originally posted by barry
                What's very interesting about this draft is the number of team who have traded out of 2020.
                This is good for us, as we have a few academy prospects, and we may be able to do what GWS did this year and turn 1 first round into 2, by trading into 2020 draft while everyone is trading out.
                Don't forget that for everyone who has traded out of 2020, some club has traded into 2020.

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8494

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  Let's not worry about how Stephens goes at AFL level next year. What's wrong with development. The beauty of the way the Swans have gone about the 'rebuild' is that there are so many young players now in the system seeking senior opportunities. I'm keen on seeing the players like Bell, Stoddart, Ling, McInerney and Foot play well in the NEAFL and earn senior call ups.
                  Looks like we now have another developing halfback flanker/outside mid, in Brady Rowles. Could be fun to watch him stride out, but the Draft Central profile was ambivalent. Essentially said that while he has plenty of talent, he can go missing and he needs to work more on getting his own ball.

                  Brady Rowles - Aussie Rules Draft Central

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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    Originally posted by liz
                    And not surprisingly, Maibaum with the second pick.
                    And that's 46 I think. So thanks for coming Aidyn Johnson etc.?

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      Brady Rowles - Aussie Rules Draft Central

                      Looks a great project. Not ready now but the kind of guy who with a some seasons of hard work and high level development could turn into a ripper. Similar size to Dawso but quicker and without the laser guided boot. His highlights are exciting to watch.

                      Watching NEAFL next year will be really brilliant. I hope a lot of matches get fixtured at Lakeside oval (or as curtain raisers). Looking forward to seeing Ling, Reynolds, Rowles, Bell, McInerney, BOC, Warner etc etc, many of whom we haven't seen that much of. Also possible that if we have a good run with injuries we'll see some of the best 22 pushed down by new recruits. I won't be sorry if Squizzy, Gray and Brand are kept out by better performing teammates.
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                      • bloodspirit
                        Clubman
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 4448

                        Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                        And that's 46 I think. So thanks for coming Aidyn Johnson etc.?
                        Room for 44 plus 3 cat B rookies. Wicks and BOC are Cat B so if you're right we only have 44 listed it seems we have at least two more spots plus another spot either for a cat B or otherwise depending on whether Bell has been promoted or not. How can we still not know? Does the fact his upgrade wasn't published as part of the ND mean that he remains a rookie? Then again I didn't see any rookies upgraded in the ND so perhaps that is published separately????
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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          By my reckoning we have 6 cat A rookies (Rowles, Knoll, Amartey, Reynolds, Maibaum, McLean) and two or three cat Bs (Wicks, BOC and maybe Bell) and 35 senior listed players. But my counting of senior listed players is getting up to only about 36 (I'll have to try again more methodically because that can't be right).

                          Anyway, I suspect this means Bell is being upgraded and we still have a Cat B rookie spot left - which is no good to Aidyn Johnson. AJ may have to wait and see if someone is injured and we want to pick him up as a PSSD rookie, and that may depend on who gets injured and what kind of player they are .
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • Legs Akimbo
                            Grand Poobah
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 2809

                            Originally posted by bloodspirit
                            Brady Rowles - Aussie Rules Draft Central

                            Looks a great project. Not ready now but the kind of guy who with a some seasons of hard work and high level development could turn into a ripper. Similar size to Dawso but quicker and without the laser guided boot. His highlights are exciting to watch.

                            Watching NEAFL next year will be really brilliant. I hope a lot of matches get fixtured at Lakeside oval (or as curtain raisers). Looking forward to seeing Ling, Reynolds, Rowles, Bell, McInerney, BOC, Warner etc etc, many of whom we haven't seen that much of. Also possible that if we have a good run with injuries we'll see some of the best 22 pushed down by new recruits. I won't be sorry if Squizzy, Gray and Brand are kept out by better performing teammates.
                            Has highlights are actually amazing. Must have some knocks on him. If nothing else we are going to be seriously quick in 2020.
                            He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              I noticed that a couple of other clubs have announced CAT B selections. I'm not sure if that means that we haven't made a selection yet, or that Bell has in fact not been promoted. That would make our senior list count at only 37, so maybe there's still some news to come on this.

                              I'm not sure if senior spots can be left open until later on. I would imagine there is some cutoff date, but not sure when that might be, especially now with selections being permitted in pre-season and mid season drafts. I'm not up on those rules. Probably the AFL aren't either. They like making them up on the fly .

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                              • bloodspirit
                                Clubman
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 4448

                                I just did a re-count and I got 38 senior players plus 6 cat A rookies and 3 cat B rookies (so no promotion for Bell after all).
                                All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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