2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    Plenty of speed on the Swans now. Don't know where we're going, but we're going to get there fast.

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      I just did a re-count and I got 38 senior players plus 6 cat A rookies
      and 3 cat B rookies (so no promotion for Bell after all).
      Funny, I just did a recount and came up with 37 primary list + 6 Cat A and 3 Cat B (including Bell).

      Primary list:

      Aliir McCartin Rampe Melican
      O'Riordan Dawson Stoddart Gray
      Lloyd Kennedy Florent McInerney
      Rowbottom Hewett Parker Elijah
      Mills Heeney Harrry-C Stephens
      Hayward Reid Blakey Foot
      Papley Franklin Taylor Clarke
      Naismith Sinclair Brand Thurlow
      Ling Fox Ronke Gould
      Warner

      Rookie list:

      Rowles
      Reynolds
      McLean
      Knoll
      Amartey
      Maibaum

      Cat B: Bell, Wicks, BOC
      Last edited by Ludwig; 29 November 2019, 10:15 AM.

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      • bloodspirit
        Clubman
        • Apr 2015
        • 4448

        I think Bell is an unfortunate victim of us trying to maximise the use of our rookie list otherwise he might have been promoted.
        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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        • Mr Magoo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1255

          No academy players which is a bit dissapointing. I sometimes wonder when you look at them taking someone like Rowles if the academy kids are victims of overexposure to the swans and therefore subject to a much higher standard of scrutiny.

          To describe Rowles as a raw prospect is a little bewildering unless it was followed by something saying he only took the game up in the last two years . If he has been playing forever but just shows glimpses of excellence then that to me is not rawness its just inconsistency.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            I think Bell is an unfortunate victim of us trying to maximise the use of our rookie list otherwise he might have been promoted.
            I don't think it makes that much difference to Bell's career. If we don't have a player we think worthy of a Cat B spot, then we might as well leave Bell there and give ourselves a bit of breathing room if there's another player we want to add to the list later on. If Bell is promoted, then our list is locked in for next year.

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            • Ralph Dawg
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2018
              • 1729

              Rowles highlight package is excellent. Highlights good speed and clean disposal. More impressed watching his than Flanders. Which just demonstrates how little we see of these players as compared to KB and the team!

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              • Industrial Fan
                Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                • Aug 2006
                • 3317

                Originally posted by Jimitron5000
                I'm happy with our selections. I'm not putting any pressure on them but:
                Stephens to be a Josh Kelly
                Gould to be a Shannon Hurn
                Taylor to be a Michael O'Loughlin
                Warner to be a Greg Williams.
                agree with Josh Kelly for Stephens - seems to move and kick the ball in a very similar manner. Let’s hope he’s somewhere near as good
                He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                • bloodspirit
                  Clubman
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 4448

                  My latest count agrees with yours, Ludwig. In which case I'm back to thinking that Bell has been promoted since 38 is minimum size for senior list. So we have a Cat B rookie spot available but that can't be used for purposes of pre-season or mid-season drafts. We can only bring someone extra in if there is an injury. So not recruiting Aidyn Johnson or Jai Florent at this stage. I wonder if they will keep hanging around training.

                  As regards Rowles, I agree his highlights package is fantastic and thus I think he just has a higher ceiling than our Academy players. It is not necessarily that he has taken up the game recently but that he has started to shine more recently, and so hasn't had as much exposure to high level development programs like the AFL Academy or the private schools programs and so he hasn't trained, and learned to train, properly. This accounts for the hope that we can improve his endurance and contested work. Then again, maybe we won't be able to sufficiently improve those things, which is why he is a rookie project. But looks well worth it to me.
                  All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                  • barracuda
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 551

                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    My latest count agrees with yours, Ludwig. In which case I'm back to thinking that Bell has been promoted since 38 is minimum size for senior list. So we have a Cat B rookie spot available but that can't be used for purposes of pre-season or mid-season drafts. We can only bring someone extra in if there is an injury. So not recruiting Aidyn Johnson or Jai Florent at this stage. I wonder if they will keep hanging around training.

                    As regards Rowles, I agree his highlights package is fantastic and thus I think he just has a higher ceiling than our Academy players. It is not necessarily that he has taken up the game recently but that he has started to shine more recently, and so hasn't had as much exposure to high level development programs like the AFL Academy or the private schools programs and so he hasn't trained, and learned to train, properly. This accounts for the hope that we can improve his endurance and contested work. Then again, maybe we won't be able to sufficiently improve those things, which is why he is a rookie project. But looks well worth it to me.
                    My understanding is Bell has a 2 year deal. Yr 1 Cat A rookie, Yr 2 senior list

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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                      Rowles highlight package is excellent. Highlights good speed and clean disposal. More impressed watching his than Flanders. Which just demonstrates how little we see of these players as compared to KB and the team!
                      I can’t seem to find a highlights package for him , what site did you see it on RD ?


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                      • Mark26
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1535

                        Giving Maibaum another shot has gone down well with the lads.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by Mark26
                          Giving Maibaum another shot has gone down well with the lads.

                          https://www.facebook.com/77278436323...6206123366324/
                          I swear I saw a player wearing his baseball cap back to front in that video!

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                          • aguy
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1324

                            Originally posted by Mark26
                            Giving Maibaum another shot has gone down well with the lads.

                            https://www.facebook.com/77278436323...6206123366324/
                            Wowow. That is awesome. Well done lads

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              I can’t seem to find a highlights package for him , what site did you see it on RD ?


                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                              On afldraftcentral - we've already posted the link.

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                              Originally posted by Mark26
                              Giving Maibaum another shot has gone down well with the lads.

                              https://www.facebook.com/77278436323...6206123366324/
                              Fantastic! What are they chanting? Sounds like "bargain!"
                              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Originally posted by barracuda
                                My understanding is Bell has a 2 year deal. Yr 1 Cat A rookie, Yr 2 senior list
                                This sort of sounds right, except that would give us 7 Cat A rookies next year, one above the maximum allowed. Maybe it's a Cat B rookie in year 1, which would conform with no announcement about a new Cat B selection.

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