2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Steve
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2003
    • 676

    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    picks 12 and 18 are approx the same points as pick 3

    having say picks 12 / 18 / 22 / 54 / 56 may work better for us depending on what we want vs what another team wants with pick 3? The top 5 to 10 players are all interstate accept maybe Campbell?

    ...

    Then we pick up Campbell and Gulden with picks 18/22 and use the picks 54/56 to balance out a deficit if Campbell was picked up at say a pick 5?

    Another club could also so desperately want pick 3 they may give up a pick 10 and 17 and or a serious player that is on the move as a trade?
    The only scenario I would entertain re: trading down would be a few places if a) we thought it would still get a pick in before a bid on Campbell, and b) we thought the player we would have taken at 3 would be available a few spots later anyway (or there were a handful of players we genuinely would be happy to have any of etc).

    In terms of the draft I would have thought we'd only be likely to take 3 players in any case - there will be reduced list sizes, and taking a punt with later draft picks on players not seen since 2019 means giving another year to existing youngsters on our list is a better option anyway.

    I understand the caution re: going into deficit next year, but weighing up that versus using a top 3 pick is a no brainer for me. Sacrificing such a high pick this year to avoid what will hopefully be a mid 1st round pick next year being slightly diluted seems an overreaction. The only other issue would be how many players we're trying to trade in as well, having to use 22, 54 and 56 to do that (minus whatever we could get in by any trades out).

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      With going into deficit next year, we could do what the Giants did and trade or swap our first round pick for 2021, which means the deficit would come off our second rounder.

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      • The Runner
        Regular in the Side
        • May 2017
        • 718

        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        With going into deficit next year, we could do what the Giants did and trade or swap our first round pick for 2021, which means the deficit would come off our second rounder.
        Not a bad idea to trade next years first round for one this year, if we can get it before Campbell. Getting 3 top 10 picks would really help us in fast tracking back up the ladder, similar to Port. Especially if we get Paddy too.

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        • gloveski
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 1018

          I wonder if we could trade pick 3 for a bonafide player plus a later pick . Get the points so we don’t go into deficit and gain a top talent in the process .
          Still like to take the punt on a top pick but this is also an option


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          • waswan
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2015
            • 2047

            Originally posted by gloveski
            I wonder if we could trade pick 3 for a bonafide player plus a later pick . Get the points so we don’t go into deficit and gain a top talent in the process .
            Still like to take the punt on a top pick but this is also an option


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            Would prefer this over not raking a mid at 3, grab an established mid at 3

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            • KSAS
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2018
              • 1793

              Originally posted by waswan
              Would prefer this over not raking a mid at 3, grab an established mid at 3
              Is it worth considering using pick 3 to snare Zach Merrett from Essendon if he's gettable? There has been speculations whether he'll sign contract extension amongst their current unrest. Still has a year remaining on his current contract and will become RFA next year, but can imagine Dodo playing his usual over the top hardball in any case.

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              • waswan
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2015
                • 2047

                Originally posted by KSAS
                Is it worth considering using pick 3 to snare Zach Merrett from Essendon if he's gettable? There has been speculations whether he'll sign contract extension amongst their current unrest. Still has a year remaining on his current contract and will become RFA next year, but can imagine Dodo playing his usual over the top hardball in any case.
                All adds up apart from it being Essendon.

                Someone like him, Early 20s and All Aus type mid for Pick 3 plus later picks back

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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4220

                  This piece suggests we have 'mild interest' in Tom Hickey, which would only become 'serious' if we 'miss out on a ruckman in the 22-25-year-old bracket'.

                  Trade Period state of play: Who's going, who's undecided

                  I wonder who we're looking for in that age bracket.

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                  • gloveski
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1018

                    I still think Constable fits exactly what we need in a big bodied midfielder. The lad can play . Brander is another I wouldn’t mind the Swans inquiring about


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                    • Melbourne_Blood
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2010
                      • 3312

                      Originally posted by KSAS
                      Is it worth considering using pick 3 to snare Zach Merrett from Essendon if he's gettable? There has been speculations whether he'll sign contract extension amongst their current unrest. Still has a year remaining on his current contract and will become RFA next year, but can imagine Dodo playing his usual over the top hardball in any case.
                      I’d give Merrett a miss personally, wouldn’t come cheap. A Constable or Will Brodie type would be my preference.


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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Gary Buckenara suggests Carlton should offer us pick 7 and Levi Casboult for Parker!

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                        • Aprilbr
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 1803

                          Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?

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                          • Aprilbr
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 1803

                            I think Mark and I were posting simultaneously!

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                            • Thunder Shaker
                              Aut vincere aut mori
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 4203

                              Originally posted by MattW
                              This piece suggests we have 'mild interest' in Tom Hickey, which would only become 'serious' if we 'miss out on a ruckman in the 22-25-year-old bracket'.

                              Trade Period state of play: Who's going, who's undecided

                              I wonder who we're looking for in that age bracket.
                              An interesting article. I was going to share it but you did it first.

                              No mention of any Swans players seeking a move to another club.

                              The other thing I was noting was the number of likely compensation picks before our pick 22.
                              * Three very likely: Joe Daniher (Essendon, first round or end of first round), Zac Williams (GWS, likely first round), Aidan Corr (GWS, likely end of first round).
                              * One possible: Brad Crouch (Adelaide, first round or end of first round).

                              If these all go through, pick 22 would slide to 26.
                              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8652

                                Originally posted by Aprilbr
                                Buckenara in his list analysis of Carlton threw up the name of Parker as someone the Blues should enquire about. While he is under contract, Bucks suggested that Pick 7 plus Casboult to the Swans might be tempting to the Swans given our current re-build status. Thoughts please?
                                I find that suggestion as impressive as his coaching record.

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