2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6474

    I agree with all points

    sometimes though strange things happen ala Barry Hall, Bud, Lockett, Shaw etc who want to move out of Melb for personal reasons and sometimes we have to capitalise on this and pull forward our strategy

    or clubs need to clear out and create cap space to preserve emerging talent who have shot up in value

    just like we have been much more flexible between our game day strategy of uncontested footy vs contested and adjusting.......we have evolved

    Neale to Brisvegas who would of thought.......i was shocked vs another team option anywhere in Oz
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • Mark26
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2017
      • 1535

      Chol has been left out of the Tigers' squad two weeks in a row. He's ripe for the picking. Over to you Kinnear. Make a play.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        AFL have slapped an arbitrary trade ban on the Sun's. Sound familiar. Northern state clubs can't make any long term plans with the panic stricken AFL. They trade banned us, they suddenly dropped cola and retention allowances for us and lions, and then they abruptly dropped GWS's cap extension, which has caused all there player problems. Now the Sun's turn.

        What a joke.

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        • Melbourne_Blood
          Senior Player
          • May 2010
          • 3312

          2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

          Originally posted by barry
          AFL have slapped an arbitrary trade ban on the Sun's. Sound familiar. Northern state clubs can't make any long term plans with the panic stricken AFL. They trade banned us, they suddenly dropped cola and retention allowances for us and lions, and then they abruptly dropped GWS's cap extension, which has caused all there player problems. Now the Sun's turn.

          What a joke.
          Hmmm I checked the article. They’ve slightly wound back some of the concessions they granted them when they were struggling. Mainly, they cannot trade the (beginning of ) second round pick they are granted for 2021.

          ‘Arbitrary trade ban on suns ‘ ....

          Sensational headline Barry, reality a little less So. You should get a gig with uncle Rupert



          Gold Coast will not be able to trade one of its future picks in the upcoming trade period


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          • Steve
            Regular in the Side
            • Jan 2003
            • 676

            Originally posted by barry
            AFL have slapped an arbitrary trade ban on the Sun's. Sound familiar. Northern state clubs can't make any long term plans with the panic stricken AFL. They trade banned us, they suddenly dropped cola and retention allowances for us and lions, and then they abruptly dropped GWS's cap extension, which has caused all there player problems. Now the Sun's turn.

            What a joke.
            “Trade Ban” makes it sound a lot more dramatic than it really is.

            At this stage 1 x 2nd round pick in 2021 they were being given as an extra concession has basically been frozen (from being traded), the AFL seem to be reserving the right to not give them that concession pick if they deem all the other concessions they’ve been given are sufficient by the time they review it next year.

            Which is actually a pretty reasonable end result as what they were given was based on them being an ongoing basket case, and they do appear to be doing better than that now.

            Even with this ‘ban’ they have done pretty well with what they’ve been given.

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              What about just making a decision and sticking to it, and letting it play out.?.

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11329

                Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                Hmmm I checked the article. They’ve slightly wound back some of the concessions they granted them when they were struggling. Mainly, they cannot trade the (beginning of ) second round pick they are granted for 2021.

                ‘Arbitrary trade ban on suns ‘ ....

                Sensational headline Barry, reality a little less So. You should get a gig with uncle Rupert



                AFL slaps ban on Suns from trading future pick

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                So what did we do to get Rowbootom and McIninerny at the beginning of the second round?
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by Nico
                  So what did we do to get Rowbootom and McIninerny at the beginning of the second round?
                  Draft extremely well. Both were considered left-field / “brave” choices when we picked them.

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                  • Thunder Shaker
                    Aut vincere aut mori
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4161

                    Originally posted by TheBloods
                    What are the odds we don't match any bid for Braeden Campbell ? Likely to go in the 6 to 10 range, which is better than a bid coming before our pick 3. But what if we still think a top 10 is too high for him and we arent willing to sacrifice the picks and the points that could be used on trading instead ?? Do people think this could be a likely outcome or are the club that invested in this kid .
                    It would be much more likely that we did something like splitting pick 3 to ensure this doesn't happen.

                    I could live with pick 3 being swapped for lower picks - such as pick 12 and 18 - to ensure we get both players. Pick 3 is just a draft pick, but Campbell and Gulden are players we've been developing through the Academy for several years.
                    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                    • Thunder Shaker
                      Aut vincere aut mori
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4161

                      An article discussing Errol Gulden and Isaiah Olsen.

                      Academy: Brothers for life

                      Maybe we will be getting Olsen as well, perhaps as a rookie?
                      "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                      • 0918330512
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1654

                        Originally posted by barry
                        What about just making a decision and sticking to it, and letting it play out.?.
                        Because when you give a struggling manufactured club too much of an advantage for too long you end up with ... GW$. GC have been given help, they have improved. Let them stand on their own two feet to succeed. They aren’t GW$, they don’t need to be gifted a grand final birth.

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          Neither GWS or the gold coast have achieved anything yet.

                          I wouldn't be surprised if the Sun's were about to trade a high profile Melbourne clubs key player. ... Then a few phone calls were made..

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                          • KSAS
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 1770

                            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                            An article discussing Errol Gulden and Isaiah Olsen.

                            Academy: Brothers for life

                            Maybe we will be getting Olsen as well, perhaps as a rookie?
                            Great article by Brandon Jack and insight the Academy is more than just developing talent but also lifelong friendships from crossing paths that wouldn't have happened. After reading that, I do hope we rookie List Isaiah Olsen who looks to also have the necessary skill & attitude to make it.

                            Also promising to hear similar trend with the Academy girls to help form close bonds with our future AFLW team.

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                            • 0918330512
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1654

                              Originally posted by barry
                              Neither GWS or the gold coast have achieved anything yet.
                              Neither has Freo, yet I don’t see them getting remotely similar concessions to the manufactured plastic northern interlopers

                              Originally posted by barry
                              I wouldn't be surprised if the Sun's were about to trade a high profile Melbourne clubs key player. ... Then a few phone calls were made..
                              They still can. It was only their additional picks they can’t trade, isn’t it? They don’t have a complete trade “ban“. And realistically they were given the additional picks to inject talent. This ensures they will select youth for the future as well as using normal picks to trade in experience if they so wish
                              Last edited by 0918330512; 16 October 2020, 07:08 AM.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                Originally posted by 09183305
                                Neither has Freo, yet I don’t see them getting remotely similar concessions to the manufactured plastic northern interlopers
                                Such a short memory.

                                We once we're a "manufactured northern interloper" in the eyes of many, and 1996 was seen as a gifted grand final appearance.

                                Anything that hurts any of the 4 northern clubs, hurts us.

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