2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    So how does that work, players contracts reduced by 3.5% but TPP by 9%. How do clubs get the other 5.5% reduction as just dropping a couple of lowly paid players won't do it.

    You can use as many late junk picks as you like to pay for NGAs etc. This has Pies written all over it who currently have no picks to pay for McInnes who is tipped to go around pick 20. This may be a trade off for having the salary cap fire sale. Fat Chins doing fine work with the VFL for the benefit of the Pies.

    Almost certain to be more pick swaps, our pick 31 for a number of 50s and 60s picks that will move up a around 9-10 places once JUH, Campbell and Jones are matched in the first half of the first round.
    Last edited by 707; 18 November 2020, 03:47 PM.

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      The wording on Matt Kennedy's move to Carlton's rookie list omits any form of the word delist:

      CARLTON will retain hardened midfielder Matt Kennedy as a rookie next year, but has delisted four players as it continues to shape its list heading into season 2021.



      The article goes on to say

      Kennedy – who spent the recent Trade Period waiting to see if he would earn a contract extension depending on list sizes – will be retained, with Carlton confirming it would select the former first-round pick in the upcoming NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
      You would think North Melbourne would be happy to pick up a player like Kennedy in the rookie draft, if they could. Maybe they can technically. I'm really not sure. But I've said before, it seems easy to move a player to the rookie list by doing just what Carlton has done. So I wouldn't fret about shifting players between lists.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Haven't listened to it yet, but Kinnear Beatson is on today's Road To The Draft podcast

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          Nothing revealing on the KB interview. I was disappointed that there weren't any questions regarding ET.

          KB did say that Paddy McCartin was a consideration for a rookie spot, which would mean that we have to delist 1 more player. It was hard to judge how serious a consideration it was. Perhaps it depends on whether we get a KPP with pick 3.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            I thought KB had a few things to say:

            *We are not looking to do a deal for pick 3 and will be taking it to the draft
            *It's one of 6 players: Hollands, Thilthorpe, JUH, Macdonald, Bruhn, DGB. Didn't mention Will Phillips
            *We will be drafting 3 players in the ND
            *We were interested in Joe Daniher but not as interested as Brisbane
            *KB makes the call on who we draft, but he does listen to input from JL

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            • Swisha
              On the Rookie List
              • Nov 2020
              • 12

              Delist Ronke to make way forward Paddy Mcartin.

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6480

                Evening all,

                I might need some help re our list

                I thought the following players have not had contracts renewed ? plus we have let go of 5 players already ?

                Ronke

                Foot

                Wicks

                Thurlow

                Oconnor

                E.Taylor?

                Plus a few forumites think that Thurlow is not delistable vs another key position options now available ?
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • Auntie.Gerald
                  Veterans List
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6480

                  sam gaden Archives - Aussie Rules Draft Central

                  In the interview with KB

                  was Sam Gaden the player that KB didnt say who his name was that would most likely be picked in the draft ?

                  he went quiet on this.....but was firm we only will take 3 ?

                  Featuring interviews with some of the draft prospects, leading AFL recruiters and talent experts, Road to the Draft airs every week in the lead-up to the NAB AFL Draft


                  Teams:

                  U18 Sydney Swans Academy

                  DEF: Aiden Adams, Aidan Beveridge, Sam Eynaud, Max Geddes, Harry Maguire, Isaiah Olsen, Kye Pfrengle, Reed Van Huisstede

                  MID: Nick Brewer, Braeden Campbell, Errol Gulden, Pierce Roseby, Marc Sheather, Sam Thorne, Cooper Wilson, Taine Wright

                  FWD: Jackson Barling, Jacob Bauer, Oscar Bird, Oscar Davis, Kale Gabila, Marco Rossmann, Jackson Tikkeros, Noah Wood

                  RUCK: Frane Babic, Sam Gaden
                  "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                  • Mark26
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1535

                    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                    Evening all,

                    I might need some help re our list

                    I thought the following players have not had contracts renewed ? plus we have let go of 5 players already ?

                    Ronke

                    Foot

                    Wicks

                    Thurlow

                    Oconnor

                    E.Taylor?

                    Plus a few forumites think that Thurlow is not delistable vs another key position options now available ?
                    My out of contract list also has these players:
                    McLean
                    Fox
                    Bell
                    Clarke
                    Kennedy

                    O'Connor has a contract to 2021.

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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6480

                      Swans make list changes

                      Michael Knoll, Jack Maibaum, Harry Reynolds, Brady Rowles, and Ryley Stoddart being delisted.


                      Three Swans sign on | Zero Hanger

                      Amartey
                      Ling
                      Melican sign on


                      https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/to-sydney-swans .......contracts finished 2020?

                      Wicks?
                      Brand?
                      Kennedy?
                      Clarke?
                      Bell?
                      Fox?
                      Ronke?
                      Hewett?
                      mcLean?
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        Hewett has a 2021 contract

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          The most recent list of Swans' out of contract players comes from Sporting News:

                          • Zac Foot
                          • Robbie Fox
                          • Hayden McLean
                          • Ben Ronke
                          • Jackson Thurlow
                          • Sam Wicks


                          Hewett has quietly left the list without fanfare. I can't confirm the accuracy. Some players, like Ryan Clarke are not shown as having new contracts by Footywire.

                          If we drop ET, we don't have to cull this list more, but they are all prime candidates to be moved the rookie list.

                          We will have to wait for the next list lodgement.

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            Surely Fox, Wicks and Thurlow all get another contract.

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                            • lwjoyner
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 953

                              I get we have 38 players incl hickey. plus or 3 draft picks = 41, therefore we need to delist/downgrade 4. our rookie list stands at 3 (bell,amerty and mclean) I think. what do we do, delist or down grading. I would downgrade E Taylor (not sure we will be allowed to delist), Foot ,Thurlow and probable Naismith (not sure if knee will be ok). Recontract all that needs to be,not sure how many that is, its confusing with various lists on red and white online.
                              ANY THOUGHTS comments. If I am right doesnt allow us to rookie anyone else.

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                              • SwanSand
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Aug 2020
                                • 527

                                Sounds like Kinnear and team rate Tanner higher than Will Phillips. Maybe due to him being a better kick.
                                Tanner will get targeted by Geelong later on if he is that good. Do we think we should draft or rate him over and above Elijah/Will given this fact? Or just take the best player available and rated by the list managers and not worry about go home factor.

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